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	<title>Comments on: Availability of new addons.mozilla.org (AMO) site</title>
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		<title>By: Amic0</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Amic0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, well, through backlinks I just found out the old mycroft search engine page is still around at http://mycroft.mozdev.org/index.html and it&#039;s working, too. Too bad it probably won&#039;t get updated anymore. Too bad that less persistent types and newbies won&#039;t even get to to know the wealth of what had been around search engine wise. What a waste...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, well, through backlinks I just found out the old mycroft search engine page is still around at <a href="http://mycroft.mozdev.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://mycroft.mozdev.org/index.html</a> and it&#8217;s working, too. Too bad it probably won&#8217;t get updated anymore. Too bad that less persistent types and newbies won&#8217;t even get to to know the wealth of what had been around search engine wise. What a waste&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amic0</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Amic0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I dumb or is it still not possible to add search engines beyond those miserable 23 (including experimental engines a whopping 24!) search engines that aren&#039;t even listed right away but through a link at the bottom of the page? Right now the whole thing looks very corporate, meaning closed, boxed in, with blinders on. The moment I realized the search engine feature had not only changed but made worthless, along with wrongly ending up on the &quot;search tools&quot; page was the first time I felt like leaving Firefox which I&#039;ve been happily using since its early 0.x stages when it still ran under the old name.

Is the old &quot;search engine&quot; page still around somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I dumb or is it still not possible to add search engines beyond those miserable 23 (including experimental engines a whopping 24!) search engines that aren&#8217;t even listed right away but through a link at the bottom of the page? Right now the whole thing looks very corporate, meaning closed, boxed in, with blinders on. The moment I realized the search engine feature had not only changed but made worthless, along with wrongly ending up on the &#8220;search tools&#8221; page was the first time I felt like leaving Firefox which I&#8217;ve been happily using since its early 0.x stages when it still ran under the old name.</p>
<p>Is the old &#8220;search engine&#8221; page still around somewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Tsu Do Nym</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsu Do Nym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandatory registration just to install an extension is bad enough, but requiring your email address is totally unjustifiable. The only possible reason they would need to collect the address of people who just download extensions would be to later spam them or sell them. It looks like Mozilla is looking for some new &quot;revenue models&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandatory registration just to install an extension is bad enough, but requiring your email address is totally unjustifiable. The only possible reason they would need to collect the address of people who just download extensions would be to later spam them or sell them. It looks like Mozilla is looking for some new &#8220;revenue models&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do like the look of the new add-ons page; but one key piece of information is missing: a date -- whether submitted or updated -- a date should be present with the name of the add-on, right on the main page.

I check the add-ons page every week (cuz, yes I *am* that anal-retentive), and, with a date, I know how far I need to go, until I&#039;m looking at stuff I saw the previous week. Without a date, there&#039;s no way to tell.

I would imagine it wouldn&#039;t be that hard to place a date field on the main page, so that each entry had a date -- then, sorting would be more meaningful, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like the look of the new add-ons page; but one key piece of information is missing: a date &#8212; whether submitted or updated &#8212; a date should be present with the name of the add-on, right on the main page.</p>
<p>I check the add-ons page every week (cuz, yes I *am* that anal-retentive), and, with a date, I know how far I need to go, until I&#8217;m looking at stuff I saw the previous week. Without a date, there&#8217;s no way to tell.</p>
<p>I would imagine it wouldn&#8217;t be that hard to place a date field on the main page, so that each entry had a date &#8212; then, sorting would be more meaningful, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidONE</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zak,

Just for the record, I&#039;m not being defensive.  Let&#039;s stick to the issues and try not to introduce emotive language, OK?

Your original reply to me appeared to be attempting to reduce the weight of my argument by demonstrating that far fewer people were dissatisfied than I suggested, while not addressing the issues raised.  That&#039;s all I was responding to.

Posting rationales and, to my eye, a round of self congratulations doesn&#039;t amount to much when so many people are clearly unhappy and pointing out the reasons why.

It&#039;s been two weeks since the AMO team announced the release and have remained silent to the wide-ranging criticism since then.  That&#039;s poor PR, at best.

We all screw up at times - it&#039;s how you respond that&#039;s critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zak,</p>
<p>Just for the record, I&#8217;m not being defensive.  Let&#8217;s stick to the issues and try not to introduce emotive language, OK?</p>
<p>Your original reply to me appeared to be attempting to reduce the weight of my argument by demonstrating that far fewer people were dissatisfied than I suggested, while not addressing the issues raised.  That&#8217;s all I was responding to.</p>
<p>Posting rationales and, to my eye, a round of self congratulations doesn&#8217;t amount to much when so many people are clearly unhappy and pointing out the reasons why.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been two weeks since the AMO team announced the release and have remained silent to the wide-ranging criticism since then.  That&#8217;s poor PR, at best.</p>
<p>We all screw up at times &#8211; it&#8217;s how you respond that&#8217;s critical.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak Greant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak Greant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidONE,

I didn&#039;t make any value judgement about the the stats or the criticisms - I measured and reported on the only link cited. Don&#039;t be so defensive - you aren&#039;t the poor devil getting flamed on your own blog by an angry mob (and neither am I this time.)

For my part, I&#039;m happy that Basil and crew are publicly posting the rationale for their changes. Regardless of whether or not they did great work, royally screwed up or some of both, the information (and the capturing of people&#039;s reactions) is still useful within Mozilla and for other FLOSS projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidONE,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make any value judgement about the the stats or the criticisms &#8211; I measured and reported on the only link cited. Don&#8217;t be so defensive &#8211; you aren&#8217;t the poor devil getting flamed on your own blog by an angry mob (and neither am I this time.)</p>
<p>For my part, I&#8217;m happy that Basil and crew are publicly posting the rationale for their changes. Regardless of whether or not they did great work, royally screwed up or some of both, the information (and the capturing of people&#8217;s reactions) is still useful within Mozilla and for other FLOSS projects.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur W</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried to search addons and themes at their site to figure out if I want to upgrade to the next beta version. Besides the &quot;search&quot; not being reliable as it can&#039;t find the darn thing when I know the name (great for a search engine) it then won&#039;t let me log in to download the darn thing... I get login after I&#039;m logged in and it just puts me in an endless do loop... why the heck do I need to log in anyway... try posting to their forum, same loop.

It is unbelievable that the two most fundamental pieces of information that anyone would want to know; Version Number &amp; Date, are two tiers down... But, it looks good.

With the recent issues with AMO, and the lack of reliability of the new FF versions, the apparent bureaucracy creep, and segregation from their users community I spent the weekend setting up Opera. If Opera gets a decent AdBlock or I figure it out better... I&#039;m gone.

Sad to see an organization succumb to the very attributes of the competitors that allowed it be born.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried to search addons and themes at their site to figure out if I want to upgrade to the next beta version. Besides the &#8220;search&#8221; not being reliable as it can&#8217;t find the darn thing when I know the name (great for a search engine) it then won&#8217;t let me log in to download the darn thing&#8230; I get login after I&#8217;m logged in and it just puts me in an endless do loop&#8230; why the heck do I need to log in anyway&#8230; try posting to their forum, same loop.</p>
<p>It is unbelievable that the two most fundamental pieces of information that anyone would want to know; Version Number &amp; Date, are two tiers down&#8230; But, it looks good.</p>
<p>With the recent issues with AMO, and the lack of reliability of the new FF versions, the apparent bureaucracy creep, and segregation from their users community I spent the weekend setting up Opera. If Opera gets a decent AdBlock or I figure it out better&#8230; I&#8217;m gone.</p>
<p>Sad to see an organization succumb to the very attributes of the competitors that allowed it be born.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: confused.brit</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>confused.brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an oversight in the design too - there is no link to the Plugins page listing things like Shockwave and Flash and the Firefox Windows Media plugin, (which is near impossible to find by googling.)

Luckily, google was able to find the plgins page for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an oversight in the design too &#8211; there is no link to the Plugins page listing things like Shockwave and Flash and the Firefox Windows Media plugin, (which is near impossible to find by googling.)</p>
<p>Luckily, google was able to find the plgins page for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The compatibility information is missing, shame on you.

Can no longer see stuff like this:
“Works with: Firefox: 2.0.0.8 – 3.0b4″ next to the download/install button:&quot;

I agree with he above poster, please, please, please bring this back.

I am not planning on upgrading to ffx 3.0 until I know that all my major extensions are compatible. I need to know what versions are acceptable for any given extension.

Please, please, please, bring this back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The compatibility information is missing, shame on you.</p>
<p>Can no longer see stuff like this:<br />
“Works with: Firefox: 2.0.0.8 – 3.0b4″ next to the download/install button:&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with he above poster, please, please, please bring this back.</p>
<p>I am not planning on upgrading to ffx 3.0 until I know that all my major extensions are compatible. I need to know what versions are acceptable for any given extension.</p>
<p>Please, please, please, bring this back!</p>
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		<title>By: brownbunny</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2008/03/26/availability-of-new-addonsmozillaorg-amo-site/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>brownbunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Why do I have to register to add a review? Can&#039;t you use some spam filter/captcha for anonymous reviews? I think the most valuable feedback comes not from fellow developers (more likely to have a mozilla.org account) but end users.

* The new UI is bad for beta testers. It usually takes weeks for extension developers to even bump their extension, if they care at all. There&#039;s no info about what version an extension is compatible with. If I&#039;m using fx3b5 an extension for fx3b5pre might just work. An extension for fx1.5 probably won&#039;t. The worst thing is that with the new UI I can&#039;t even download the extension to bump it myself if my firefox is a higher version. (Funnily the install links in version history aren&#039;t disabled, as if an older version were more likely to work with my newer browser.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Why do I have to register to add a review? Can&#8217;t you use some spam filter/captcha for anonymous reviews? I think the most valuable feedback comes not from fellow developers (more likely to have a mozilla.org account) but end users.</p>
<p>* The new UI is bad for beta testers. It usually takes weeks for extension developers to even bump their extension, if they care at all. There&#8217;s no info about what version an extension is compatible with. If I&#8217;m using fx3b5 an extension for fx3b5pre might just work. An extension for fx1.5 probably won&#8217;t. The worst thing is that with the new UI I can&#8217;t even download the extension to bump it myself if my firefox is a higher version. (Funnily the install links in version history aren&#8217;t disabled, as if an older version were more likely to work with my newer browser.)</p>
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