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	<title>Comments on: Firefox Add-ons Contributions Pilot</title>
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		<title>By: xzer</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-101948</link>
		<dc:creator>xzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 14:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to ask that why I can&#039;t set up the contribution of my addon, I got a error message as &quot;Account is restricted&quot; of my paypal ID.

I am sure there is no problem with my paypal account, but I can&#039;t find any explain that why the AMO told me &quot;Account is restricted&quot;.

I don&#039;t know whether here is a right place to ask this question, but I really just can&#039;t find any words on google search...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to ask that why I can&#8217;t set up the contribution of my addon, I got a error message as &#8220;Account is restricted&#8221; of my paypal ID.</p>
<p>I am sure there is no problem with my paypal account, but I can&#8217;t find any explain that why the AMO told me &#8220;Account is restricted&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether here is a right place to ask this question, but I really just can&#8217;t find any words on google search&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Edd James</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-92201</link>
		<dc:creator>Edd James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Milos - lucky you. Gotta jump on the paypal hate wagon here. They are a damn nightmare, especially if used for business purposes. Also is this gonna cause me any hassles with FFox as it&#039;s been so buggy recently I had to revert to IE8 for some stuff, and reconfigure Firefox so that it downloaded PDFs rather than open them, as it kept crashing (yes, crashing) the browser... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Milos &#8211; lucky you. Gotta jump on the paypal hate wagon here. They are a damn nightmare, especially if used for business purposes. Also is this gonna cause me any hassles with FFox as it&#8217;s been so buggy recently I had to revert to IE8 for some stuff, and reconfigure Firefox so that it downloaded PDFs rather than open them, as it kept crashing (yes, crashing) the browser&#8230; <img src='http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lee Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-81263</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 18:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Contributions is a great idea, the web developer toolbar I use a lot, when creating websites, I find it a great &#039;in betweener&#039; that is that the plugin is great for quickly editing a site in live mode, then I jump to Coda to make the changes. 

Loads more addons like that, I would happily make a contribution to that and other addons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Contributions is a great idea, the web developer toolbar I use a lot, when creating websites, I find it a great &#8216;in betweener&#8217; that is that the plugin is great for quickly editing a site in live mode, then I jump to Coda to make the changes. </p>
<p>Loads more addons like that, I would happily make a contribution to that and other addons.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-69076</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clicked the donation link for my new and greatly appreciated add-on.  At first I was afraid of giving credit card info.  Then I felt safe because the info would only go to a large company, except that I remembered having heard something about PayPal.  So I checked.  My conclusion is that Firefox (Mozilla) should have nothing more to do with PayPal, except to close business with them in an orderly manner.  All links from Mozilla that recommend PayPal should be immediately deleted, even without waiting for an alternative.  I regret that Mozilla has misled me and others to PayPal, especially as I had such high hopes for the &quot;community-based approach to create world-class open source software and to develop new types of collaborative activities.&quot;  (See The Mozilla Manifesto for that quote and basic motives to quit anything like PayPal.)

The Pilot seeks, as stated above, &quot;to provide a secure and international solution for facilitating payments.&quot;  PayPal is not secure, unless just referring to superficial security like SSL or account privacy.  PayPal is not a bank, is not regulated as a bank, does not have bank like security, and has been proven to be insecure both in practice and from an operating model standpoint, for both donors and recipients of funds.

Especially disturbing is the quote above: &quot;We are working with PayPal...&quot;  I am not anti-corporate by any stretch, but PayPal is greedy in the biblical sense of sinful, evil, covetous, fraudulent greed.  Please evict their Trojan Horse corporate operatives.

Laughable is the above statement, &quot;Developers will receive all the proceeds from contributions minus the PayPal transaction fee.&quot;  Not really.  PayPal will receive all proceeds, and may, at its discretion, per its User Agreement that federal judge Fogel ruled as unconscionable, allow developers a portion, after indisputable fees, delays, and fraudulent drain offs.

Tom asks, &quot;... why punish add-on developers by not supporting their work because of your own personal dislike for the donation provider?&quot;  It is not a mere personal dislike.  It is a well documented public outcry.  I have never seen an Internet company with such a horrible record.  It has stayed in business by the brute force of having so much access to funding (i.e. your bank account) that it can afford expensive legal bills, while mainly challenged only by consumers and small business owners who generally cannot afford an attorney.

http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+problem (66,400,000 results)
http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+horror (6,800,000 results)
http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+complaints (1,210,000 results)
http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+lawsuit (679,000 results)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paypal.aspx (1,525 Reports)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/cryptome_paypal/
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/your-money/28haggler.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/169843/paypal_adds_fees_sneakily.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clicked the donation link for my new and greatly appreciated add-on.  At first I was afraid of giving credit card info.  Then I felt safe because the info would only go to a large company, except that I remembered having heard something about PayPal.  So I checked.  My conclusion is that Firefox (Mozilla) should have nothing more to do with PayPal, except to close business with them in an orderly manner.  All links from Mozilla that recommend PayPal should be immediately deleted, even without waiting for an alternative.  I regret that Mozilla has misled me and others to PayPal, especially as I had such high hopes for the &#8220;community-based approach to create world-class open source software and to develop new types of collaborative activities.&#8221;  (See The Mozilla Manifesto for that quote and basic motives to quit anything like PayPal.)</p>
<p>The Pilot seeks, as stated above, &#8220;to provide a secure and international solution for facilitating payments.&#8221;  PayPal is not secure, unless just referring to superficial security like SSL or account privacy.  PayPal is not a bank, is not regulated as a bank, does not have bank like security, and has been proven to be insecure both in practice and from an operating model standpoint, for both donors and recipients of funds.</p>
<p>Especially disturbing is the quote above: &#8220;We are working with PayPal&#8230;&#8221;  I am not anti-corporate by any stretch, but PayPal is greedy in the biblical sense of sinful, evil, covetous, fraudulent greed.  Please evict their Trojan Horse corporate operatives.</p>
<p>Laughable is the above statement, &#8220;Developers will receive all the proceeds from contributions minus the PayPal transaction fee.&#8221;  Not really.  PayPal will receive all proceeds, and may, at its discretion, per its User Agreement that federal judge Fogel ruled as unconscionable, allow developers a portion, after indisputable fees, delays, and fraudulent drain offs.</p>
<p>Tom asks, &#8220;&#8230; why punish add-on developers by not supporting their work because of your own personal dislike for the donation provider?&#8221;  It is not a mere personal dislike.  It is a well documented public outcry.  I have never seen an Internet company with such a horrible record.  It has stayed in business by the brute force of having so much access to funding (i.e. your bank account) that it can afford expensive legal bills, while mainly challenged only by consumers and small business owners who generally cannot afford an attorney.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+problem" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+problem</a> (66,400,000 results)<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+horror" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+horror</a> (6,800,000 results)<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+complaints" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+complaints</a> (1,210,000 results)<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+lawsuit" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/#q=paypal+lawsuit</a> (679,000 results)<br />
<a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paypal.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/paypal.aspx</a> (1,525 Reports)<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/cryptome_paypal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/16/cryptome_paypal/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/your-money/28haggler.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/your-money/28haggler.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/169843/paypal_adds_fees_sneakily.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcworld.com/article/169843/paypal_adds_fees_sneakily.html</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitations" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal#Criticism_and_limitations</a></p>
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		<title>By: J. Couprie</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-10824</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Couprie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link to micropayments  does not work from France.

To have more addons is good for users because they have more functionalities. It is also good for developers because they have less pressure to develop new functionalities.

All incentives to the authors are good : from the users it is fame, recognition in every form including money, from the development team it is more suppressing &quot;negative incentives&quot; e.g. defining and documenting hooks, interfaces with the addon, lowering the time needed to check and modify the addons broken by the new monthly update : this means more time to code new addons !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link to micropayments  does not work from France.</p>
<p>To have more addons is good for users because they have more functionalities. It is also good for developers because they have less pressure to develop new functionalities.</p>
<p>All incentives to the authors are good : from the users it is fame, recognition in every form including money, from the development team it is more suppressing &#8220;negative incentives&#8221; e.g. defining and documenting hooks, interfaces with the addon, lowering the time needed to check and modify the addons broken by the new monthly update : this means more time to code new addons !</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Sims</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-7871</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Sims</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really good idea and yet another encouragement to use Firefox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really good idea and yet another encouragement to use Firefox!</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Shoemaker</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-6953</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Shoemaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone happen to know what will be the exact text which pops up to ask for the contribution? Also how much control does the add-on developer have in scripting the pop up text?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone happen to know what will be the exact text which pops up to ask for the contribution? Also how much control does the add-on developer have in scripting the pop up text?</p>
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		<title>By: onemen</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-6713</link>
		<dc:creator>onemen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i tried to enter contribution account i get an error
The email or merchant ID specified is invalid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i tried to enter contribution account i get an error<br />
The email or merchant ID specified is invalid</p>
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		<title>By: dmitriy</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-6506</link>
		<dc:creator>dmitriy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanx tfor this innovation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanx tfor this innovation</p>
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		<title>By: carolina</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2009/07/15/firefox-add-ons-contributions-pilot/comment-page-1/#comment-6401</link>
		<dc:creator>carolina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all sounds good... BUT... when I installed the latest Mozilla, it just told me that my Norton add ons are not compatible... WTF,,, why not??? I need them becouse I need to know when a web page is fake or not, sorry but it is my personal opinion and a very respectfull one... and the &quot;new&quot; mozilla does not offers such of things... please.... how I can ammend that?? using another sofware like Microsoft explorer is not a good Idea... 
carolina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all sounds good&#8230; BUT&#8230; when I installed the latest Mozilla, it just told me that my Norton add ons are not compatible&#8230; WTF,,, why not??? I need them becouse I need to know when a web page is fake or not, sorry but it is my personal opinion and a very respectfull one&#8230; and the &#8220;new&#8221; mozilla does not offers such of things&#8230; please&#8230;. how I can ammend that?? using another sofware like Microsoft explorer is not a good Idea&#8230;<br />
carolina</p>
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