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	<title>Comments on: Ceci n&#8217;est pas une iPhone</title>
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	<description>The odd parity bit</description>
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		<title>By: Dethe Elza</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/01/22/ceci-nest-pas-une-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Dethe Elza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The N800 is running an open-source OS: Linux with the Maemo desktop.  The developers have been pretty active on the Cairo list, working with the Cairo developers to get better support for the built-in 2D vector acceleration, so SVG support should get better over time.  It&#039;s certainly on the agenda.

You can also install Python on the N800, so it shouldn&#039;t be hard to get your own custom functionality where you need it.  As for SVG in the browser, someone was porting WebKit to the 770, but I&#039;m not sure what the status of that effort is.  There is also a Mozilla-based browser, so you&#039;ve got lots of options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The N800 is running an open-source OS: Linux with the Maemo desktop.  The developers have been pretty active on the Cairo list, working with the Cairo developers to get better support for the built-in 2D vector acceleration, so SVG support should get better over time.  It&#8217;s certainly on the agenda.</p>
<p>You can also install Python on the N800, so it shouldn&#8217;t be hard to get your own custom functionality where you need it.  As for SVG in the browser, someone was porting WebKit to the 770, but I&#8217;m not sure what the status of that effort is.  There is also a Mozilla-based browser, so you&#8217;ve got lots of options.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Quint</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/01/22/ceci-nest-pas-une-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Quint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback Justin!</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/01/22/ceci-nest-pas-une-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1608</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antoine:

It seems that the N800 browser doesn&#039;t support SVG; on the Opera page you linked to, it just displays an icon in the IFRAMEs. [Looks similar to how Firefox displays an icon when a plugin is missing, although plugins are not involved here.]

However, the external media viewer (&quot;Images&quot;) does have some form of SVG support. Clicking on the first example on Opera&#039;s page opens it up in the viewer, and the animation even plays. The second example doesn&#039;t show anything, though.

I tried a few other SVG samples at other sites, and had mixed results. Most didn&#039;t display, but a few simple ones did.

Beltzner:

It does have a WiFi connection chooser and status icon on the home screen. I&#039;ve only used it at MoCo and at home, so I&#039;m not sure what it displays when no network is present, or if an unknown network is present. IIRC, the first-boot configuration asked me if I wanted to automatically connect to any available network or just networks I approve... But now I can&#039;t find that setting.

The email client supports POP and IMAP, and looks like it can either leave messages on the server or download them to the device. I haven&#039;t figured out how I want to do email yet, since I currently have Thunderbird pull everything down to my laptop.

The Nokia says it can&#039;t want to play with you, and hopes you&#039;ll be it&#039;s friend. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antoine:</p>
<p>It seems that the N800 browser doesn&#8217;t support SVG; on the Opera page you linked to, it just displays an icon in the IFRAMEs. [Looks similar to how Firefox displays an icon when a plugin is missing, although plugins are not involved here.]</p>
<p>However, the external media viewer (&#8221;Images&#8221;) does have some form of SVG support. Clicking on the first example on Opera&#8217;s page opens it up in the viewer, and the animation even plays. The second example doesn&#8217;t show anything, though.</p>
<p>I tried a few other SVG samples at other sites, and had mixed results. Most didn&#8217;t display, but a few simple ones did.</p>
<p>Beltzner:</p>
<p>It does have a WiFi connection chooser and status icon on the home screen. I&#8217;ve only used it at MoCo and at home, so I&#8217;m not sure what it displays when no network is present, or if an unknown network is present. IIRC, the first-boot configuration asked me if I wanted to automatically connect to any available network or just networks I approve&#8230; But now I can&#8217;t find that setting.</p>
<p>The email client supports POP and IMAP, and looks like it can either leave messages on the server or download them to the device. I haven&#8217;t figured out how I want to do email yet, since I currently have Thunderbird pull everything down to my laptop.</p>
<p>The Nokia says it can&#8217;t want to play with you, and hopes you&#8217;ll be it&#8217;s friend. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: beltzner</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/01/22/ceci-nest-pas-une-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1606</link>
		<dc:creator>beltzner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds pretty cool. Does it have any low-power WiFi detection so that when you&#039;re, say, in line at a Starbucks or something you can quickly figure out if there&#039;s a network you might be able to hop onto in order to grab a bit more data?

What&#039;s the sync model like on the email reader?

Can I play with it when I see you next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty cool. Does it have any low-power WiFi detection so that when you&#8217;re, say, in line at a Starbucks or something you can quickly figure out if there&#8217;s a network you might be able to hop onto in order to grab a bit more data?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the sync model like on the email reader?</p>
<p>Can I play with it when I see you next?</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Quint</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/01/22/ceci-nest-pas-une-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Quint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick question: does the Opera 8 browser has the SVG support activated? A quick way to find out usually is by hitting the following page:

http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/

Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick question: does the Opera 8 browser has the SVG support activated? A quick way to find out usually is by hitting the following page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for the info.</p>
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