Comments on: Confluence of thoughts… http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts/ The odd parity bit Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:15:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Justin Dolske http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-14046 Justin Dolske Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:11:42 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts.../#comment-14046 Kroc: I think you've missed part of my point here. Ideally, there just shouldn't be any "install" process visible to the user... You download a thing from Mozilla, double click it, and a FF browser window comes up, ready for use. Spitting things up into an "easy" and "advanced" path should be done as little as possible, because the "advanced" path can all too easily become a dumping ground for stuff. Finding simple, elegant solutions to complex problems can be hard! Gerv: Stop reading my mind! Kroc:

I think you’ve missed part of my point here. Ideally, there just shouldn’t be any “install” process visible to the user… You download a thing from Mozilla, double click it, and a FF browser window comes up, ready for use.

Spitting things up into an “easy” and “advanced” path should be done as little as possible, because the “advanced” path can all too easily become a dumping ground for stuff. Finding simple, elegant solutions to complex problems can be hard!

Gerv:

Stop reading my mind!

]]> By: Gerv http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-14008 Gerv Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:52:27 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts.../#comment-14008 I agree. Why don't we check for different installed browsers and, if there's only one set of bookmarks, import them automatically without asking? Why don't we ask about default-browserness at shutdown instead of startup? After all, people have had a chance to try it out at that point. If we wanted to be cheeky, we could label the buttons "Yes" and "Not Yet". :-) The SSL site entry/exit dialogs are pretty useless. Does _anyone_ leave those turned on? We should get rid of those, too - or replace them with yellow bars. I agree. Why don’t we check for different installed browsers and, if there’s only one set of bookmarks, import them automatically without asking? Why don’t we ask about default-browserness at shutdown instead of startup? After all, people have had a chance to try it out at that point. If we wanted to be cheeky, we could label the buttons “Yes” and “Not Yet”. :-)

The SSL site entry/exit dialogs are pretty useless. Does _anyone_ leave those turned on? We should get rid of those, too – or replace them with yellow bars.

]]> By: Kroc Camen http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-13992 Kroc Camen Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:04:17 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts.../#comment-13992 The first screen should be: * Easy Install * Choose Options The easy install does everything in one go, and ends with the "choose your home page" screen, since that's pretty important. The choose options path goes through all the detailed gumpf. I agree that the Firefox installer does need to be easier. It's about one click over the sensible amount at the moment. As for OS X installing - Moz needs to get with the times and provide an Applications folder alias in the Disk Image :) Firefox should also detect if it's being run from its disk image, and should tell the user that they need to install the app, offering a button to copy it for them, and a checkbox to add to the dock. The first screen should be:

* Easy Install
* Choose Options

The easy install does everything in one go, and ends with the “choose your home page” screen, since that’s pretty important.

The choose options path goes through all the detailed gumpf.

I agree that the Firefox installer does need to be easier. It’s about one click over the sensible amount at the moment.

As for OS X installing – Moz needs to get with the times and provide an Applications folder alias in the Disk Image :) Firefox should also detect if it’s being run from its disk image, and should tell the user that they need to install the app, offering a button to copy it for them, and a checkbox to add to the dock.

]]> By: Chris Cunningham http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-13990 Chris Cunningham Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:33:40 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/06/06/confluence-of-thoughts.../#comment-13990 Silent unpacking to %temp%, auto-importing bookmarks and history and offering to install permanently when you close the browser would seem to be a good way of doing this. - Chris Silent unpacking to %temp%, auto-importing bookmarks and history and offering to install permanently when you close the browser would seem to be a good way of doing this.

– Chris

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