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	<title>Comments for Justin Dolske's blog</title>
	<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske</link>
	<description>The odd parity bit</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Inflammable interns? What a country! by DazzleCat</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/08/10/inflammible-interns-what-a-country/#comment-35869</link>
		<dc:creator>DazzleCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/08/10/inflammible-interns-what-a-country/#comment-35869</guid>
		<description>(rolls eyes) interns hey?! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(rolls eyes) interns hey?! :-D</p>
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		<title>Comment on Followup: Password Manager changes (coming in FF3 Alpha 5) by DazzleCat</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/05/28/followup-password-manager-changes-coming-in-ff3-alpha-5/#comment-35868</link>
		<dc:creator>DazzleCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2007/05/28/followup-password-manager-changes-coming-in-ff3-alpha-5/#comment-35868</guid>
		<description>thats brilliant good stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats brilliant good stuff</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another look at SafeBrowsing warnings by Gijs</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35826</link>
		<dc:creator>Gijs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35826</guid>
		<description>Are those pages localized? Those dates could mean either "May 1st" or "January 5th" to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are those pages localized? Those dates could mean either &#8220;May 1st&#8221; or &#8220;January 5th&#8221; to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another look at SafeBrowsing warnings by Justin Dolske</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35585</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Dolske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35585</guid>
		<description>jwatt:

I think, but am not sure, that "this site has not hosted malicious software" is making a distinction between targeting users and just providing bandwidth for distributing malware? It is confusing, though.

The linked URLs just go to the report pages for those sites, not the actual site.

I've seen mixed results on how often blocked sites are scanned. But I think the important point for the moment is that by making this data available, it's now possible to critique the method.

Chris:

I'm not now sure exactly what "without user consent" means. I'd assume it's a mix of pages trying to exploit known security vulnerabilities, and distributing software that dishonestly includes malware (eg, a screensaver that includes trojan).

I don't think listing the exact exploits and advisories is all that useful for users. If the site is actively distributing malware, then it's risky to visit, end of story. I would expect that sites using known malware are also highly likely to include unknown attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jwatt:</p>
<p>I think, but am not sure, that &#8220;this site has not hosted malicious software&#8221; is making a distinction between targeting users and just providing bandwidth for distributing malware? It is confusing, though.</p>
<p>The linked URLs just go to the report pages for those sites, not the actual site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen mixed results on how often blocked sites are scanned. But I think the important point for the moment is that by making this data available, it&#8217;s now possible to critique the method.</p>
<p>Chris:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not now sure exactly what &#8220;without user consent&#8221; means. I&#8217;d assume it&#8217;s a mix of pages trying to exploit known security vulnerabilities, and distributing software that dishonestly includes malware (eg, a screensaver that includes trojan).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think listing the exact exploits and advisories is all that useful for users. If the site is actively distributing malware, then it&#8217;s risky to visit, end of story. I would expect that sites using known malware are also highly likely to include unknown attacks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another look at SafeBrowsing warnings by Chris Hubick</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35567</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Hubick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35567</guid>
		<description>How does "malicious software" get "downloaded and installed without user consent"?

Does this really mean "this web site attempts to exploit security vulnerabilities to download and install malicious software without user consent"?

I mean, no site should be able to do that, so I'm lost.

As for the level of detail, IMO, it tells me almost nothing - I want to know what exploits the page attempts with links to corresponding security advisories, etc.  So, my preference would be a summary at the top for "normal" users, and then a big divider, and give even more detail below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does &#8220;malicious software&#8221; get &#8220;downloaded and installed without user consent&#8221;?</p>
<p>Does this really mean &#8220;this web site attempts to exploit security vulnerabilities to download and install malicious software without user consent&#8221;?</p>
<p>I mean, no site should be able to do that, so I&#8217;m lost.</p>
<p>As for the level of detail, IMO, it tells me almost nothing - I want to know what exploits the page attempts with links to corresponding security advisories, etc.  So, my preference would be a summary at the top for &#8220;normal&#8221; users, and then a big divider, and give even more detail below.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another look at SafeBrowsing warnings by Olly</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35551</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 10:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35551</guid>
		<description>I've hit the big red warning in FF3b5 and upon clicking through found that Google's already marked the site as "safe". How often does FF update it's blacklist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve hit the big red warning in FF3b5 and upon clicking through found that Google&#8217;s already marked the site as &#8220;safe&#8221;. How often does FF update it&#8217;s blacklist?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another look at SafeBrowsing warnings by Jonathan Watt</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Watt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 08:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/05/06/another-look-at-safebrowsing-warnings/#comment-35546</guid>
		<description>So it says:

&#62; Of the 151 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 108
&#62; page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded...

Then just a bit further down it says:

&#62; Has this site hosted malware?
&#62;     No, this site has not hosted malicous software over the past 90
&#62;     days.

Huh??? That's confusing.

Also, it says this is for bettasearch.com, but actually it's for www.bettasearch.com. That www. can make a big difference, so they should fix that.

And why on earth are the URLs to the malicious sites actually hyperlinked? (Unless they go to safebrowsing.clients.google.com of course.)

I visited the site myself just now, and the page is currently saying:

&#62; Of the 1 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s)
&#62; resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without
&#62; user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on
&#62; 03/26/2008, and suspicious content was never found on this site
&#62; within the past 90 days.

So why is it still being blocked? Is 1 page test really enough? I suspect the site is still hosting malicious software (being bet_t_asearch.com and all), but if a user sees that only one page was tested, and it wasn't found to have malicious software on it, they're going to loose confidence in the protection and think it's buggy and just a pain. They're also likely to click through to the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it says:</p>
<p>&gt; Of the 151 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 108<br />
&gt; page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded&#8230;</p>
<p>Then just a bit further down it says:</p>
<p>&gt; Has this site hosted malware?<br />
&gt;     No, this site has not hosted malicous software over the past 90<br />
&gt;     days.</p>
<p>Huh??? That&#8217;s confusing.</p>
<p>Also, it says this is for bettasearch.com, but actually it&#8217;s for <a href="http://www.bettasearch.com." rel="nofollow">www.bettasearch.com.</a> That <a href="http://www." rel="nofollow">www.</a> can make a big difference, so they should fix that.</p>
<p>And why on earth are the URLs to the malicious sites actually hyperlinked? (Unless they go to safebrowsing.clients.google.com of course.)</p>
<p>I visited the site myself just now, and the page is currently saying:</p>
<p>&gt; Of the 1 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s)<br />
&gt; resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without<br />
&gt; user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on<br />
&gt; 03/26/2008, and suspicious content was never found on this site<br />
&gt; within the past 90 days.</p>
<p>So why is it still being blocked? Is 1 page test really enough? I suspect the site is still hosting malicious software (being bet_t_asearch.com and all), but if a user sees that only one page was tested, and it wasn&#8217;t found to have malicious software on it, they&#8217;re going to loose confidence in the protection and think it&#8217;s buggy and just a pain. They&#8217;re also likely to click through to the page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is why cell phone companies irritate me by skierpage</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-35123</link>
		<dc:creator>skierpage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-35123</guid>
		<description>Try just using the phone as a modem and see if Sprint notices (depends on "NAI").  Google for the modem driver (it might be part of the serial driver, or separate); if you're on Windows it might be in the enormous "Sprint Connection Manager" download.  The smarter people on sprintusers.com forums should be able to help you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try just using the phone as a modem and see if Sprint notices (depends on &#8220;NAI&#8221;).  Google for the modem driver (it might be part of the serial driver, or separate); if you&#8217;re on Windows it might be in the enormous &#8220;Sprint Connection Manager&#8221; download.  The smarter people on sprintusers.com forums should be able to help you out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is why cell phone companies irritate me by Dave Miller</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-34896</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-34896</guid>
		<description>I've got a Palm Treo on AT&#38;T, and I can tether it to the laptop on the standard data plan, didn't have to get anything special to allow the laptop connection.  The lack of being able to do that with an iPhone is why I haven't gotten one yet.  EVDO modems are too expensive for my taste (more expensive than the unlimited data plan on the Treo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a Palm Treo on AT&amp;T, and I can tether it to the laptop on the standard data plan, didn&#8217;t have to get anything special to allow the laptop connection.  The lack of being able to do that with an iPhone is why I haven&#8217;t gotten one yet.  EVDO modems are too expensive for my taste (more expensive than the unlimited data plan on the Treo).</p>
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		<title>Comment on This is why cell phone companies irritate me by Atul Varma</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-34863</link>
		<dc:creator>Atul Varma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/04/27/this-is-why-cell-phone-companies-irritate-me/#comment-34863</guid>
		<description>I ran into similar frustrations when looking into tethering options for my phone, and ultimately decided to just split the two--so now I've got an EVDO Rev. A USB modem from Sprint, which costs $60/month for unlimited bandwidth, and a separate cell phone plan from Verizon.

One of the advantages of the USB modem over tethering, I've found, is that since the USB modem is fully powered by your computer, it doesn't need a separate power source, which often isn't the case with tethering.  Another advantage of it is that my data plan is now "decoupled" from my voice plan, so if some awesome new data technology comes out in the next few months, I can buy a new data modem without having to get a new cell phone... Anyways, it's a trade-off, but one that I'm willing to deal with for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into similar frustrations when looking into tethering options for my phone, and ultimately decided to just split the two&#8211;so now I&#8217;ve got an EVDO Rev. A USB modem from Sprint, which costs $60/month for unlimited bandwidth, and a separate cell phone plan from Verizon.</p>
<p>One of the advantages of the USB modem over tethering, I&#8217;ve found, is that since the USB modem is fully powered by your computer, it doesn&#8217;t need a separate power source, which often isn&#8217;t the case with tethering.  Another advantage of it is that my data plan is now &#8220;decoupled&#8221; from my voice plan, so if some awesome new data technology comes out in the next few months, I can buy a new data modem without having to get a new cell phone&#8230; Anyways, it&#8217;s a trade-off, but one that I&#8217;m willing to deal with for now.</p>
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