Comments on: Why the iPhone is no Newton http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/ User Experience Design at Mozilla Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:38:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Aksi Lucah http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-54696 Aksi Lucah Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:02:00 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-54696 i really enjoyed reading this post..keep up the good work ;) i really enjoyed reading this post..keep up the good work ;)

]]> By: Freak http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-16451 Freak Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:51:12 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-16451 "... running on a mobile device like the iPhone" Not, it's not. iPhone is locked and Jobs don't want competition on the built-in Safari. :D “… running on a mobile device like the iPhone”

Not, it’s not. iPhone is locked and Jobs don’t want competition on the built-in Safari. :D

]]> By: Markc http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7958 Markc Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:37:00 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7958 The Newton was/is a great system, and I've yet to find anything that is anywhere near as powerful or easy to use - as a PDA that is, not as a handheld multimedia device that happens to have an address book. However it was made in more naive times. The idea of a soup is one of the things that made it so poweful, but there is essentially no security in the Newton's model - any application can add, remove or modify any other application's data. It allowed for "mashup" applications, which extended the built-in apps (and other third-party apps) with ease, but a modern implementation of a Newton soup would need additional security - and the UI that goes with it. Of course as soon as you add that UI ("Someapp would like to access your address book...") the transparent integration of the Newton disappears. The Newton was/is a great system, and I’ve yet to find anything that is anywhere near as powerful or easy to use - as a PDA that is, not as a handheld multimedia device that happens to have an address book.

However it was made in more naive times. The idea of a soup is one of the things that made it so poweful, but there is essentially no security in the Newton’s model - any application can add, remove or modify any other application’s data. It allowed for “mashup” applications, which extended the built-in apps (and other third-party apps) with ease, but a modern implementation of a Newton soup would need additional security - and the UI that goes with it. Of course as soon as you add that UI (”Someapp would like to access your address book…”) the transparent integration of the Newton disappears.

]]> By: Edwin Khodabakchian http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7957 Edwin Khodabakchian Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:31:47 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7957 Alex, I am a big fan of your work and blog. I am wondering why you would need a local DB when ATOM, JSON, GData and others allow you to turn the web into a distributed DB - some more advanced caching and some background processing (a la Google Gears should help us get there). But I think that your vision of microformats and boundarieless data will push interactivity to the next level. Alex, I am a big fan of your work and blog. I am wondering why you would need a local DB when ATOM, JSON, GData and others allow you to turn the web into a distributed DB - some more advanced caching and some background processing (a la Google Gears should help us get there). But I think that your vision of microformats and boundarieless data will push interactivity to the next level.

]]> By: Justin Dolske http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7754 Justin Dolske Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:19:35 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7754 Eat up Martha. Eat up Martha.

]]> By: Eric Shepherd http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7737 Eric Shepherd Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:28:11 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7737 I loved the Newton. I've owned several (I have four, in fact, right now). It was an amazing device, and got ribbed a lot more than it deserved for the handwriting recognition, which Apple improved constantly over its lifetime. I loved the Newton. I’ve owned several (I have four, in fact, right now). It was an amazing device, and got ribbed a lot more than it deserved for the handwriting recognition, which Apple improved constantly over its lifetime.

]]> By: John http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7722 John Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:27:13 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7722 Nice observation, thanks. Nice observation, thanks.

]]> By: quodlibetor http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7720 quodlibetor Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:45:53 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7720 So what you're saying is that firefox 3--with its incorporated db, microformat detection, and fuel-enhanced extension APIs--is going to fundamentally re-define the way that we interact with our data? Surely you jest ;-) So what you’re saying is that firefox 3–with its incorporated db, microformat detection, and fuel-enhanced extension APIs–is going to fundamentally re-define the way that we interact with our data?

Surely you jest ;-)

]]> By: hansen http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7718 hansen Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:00:42 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2007/06/29/why-the-iphone-is-no-newton/#comment-7718 Great article! One still wonders about all the issues you've raised. How do we change "Web 2.0" into a non-annoyance, where we don't have to enter the same data twice? To accomplish Newton, it would require Apple, Microsoft and all the other big ones, to open up and play together with the rest of us. Will "Web 3.0" be the Newton in real life and not just an idea? Great article!

One still wonders about all the issues you’ve raised.

How do we change “Web 2.0″ into a non-annoyance, where we don’t have to enter the same data twice?

To accomplish Newton, it would require Apple, Microsoft and all the other big ones, to open up and play together with the rest of us.

Will “Web 3.0″ be the Newton in real life and not just an idea?

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