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	<title>Comments on: Navigation Toolbar on Windows</title>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Frazier</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-160186</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Frazier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m old and want my tabs that have home, forward or back, history etc. back on my Navigation Tool bar on Windows. I would appreciate me control since I pay for the privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m old and want my tabs that have home, forward or back, history etc. back on my Navigation Tool bar on Windows. I would appreciate me control since I pay for the privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: Karyn32Reese</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-159768</link>
		<dc:creator>Karyn32Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buildings are not very cheap and not every person is able to buy it. However, &lt;a href=&quot;http://bestfinance-blog.com/topics/home-loans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;home loans&lt;/a&gt; was invented to aid different people in such cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buildings are not very cheap and not every person is able to buy it. However, <a href="http://bestfinance-blog.com/topics/home-loans" rel="nofollow">home loans</a> was invented to aid different people in such cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedava Oyunlar</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-113423</link>
		<dc:creator>Bedava Oyunlar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only suggestion I have is to reshape the arrows of the back/forward buttons. The small tail looks a little awkward.

Besides that, keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only suggestion I have is to reshape the arrows of the back/forward buttons. The small tail looks a little awkward.</p>
<p>Besides that, keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Carter</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-105671</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Type your comment here. Sir or Madam I cannot locate the navagation arrows no longer on top of tool bar. I must have done something.  I checked favorites and tools but I cannot locate them.  They were there. I cannot go forward and backwards without them so any help you can give is appreciated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Type your comment here. Sir or Madam I cannot locate the navagation arrows no longer on top of tool bar. I must have done something.  I checked favorites and tools but I cannot locate them.  They were there. I cannot go forward and backwards without them so any help you can give is appreciated</p>
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		<title>By: Orly</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-73548</link>
		<dc:creator>Orly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the back arrow? Huh? What 
did you do with it? Please restore
the back arrow. Okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the back arrow? Huh? What<br />
did you do with it? Please restore<br />
the back arrow. Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: RSchewe</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-37696</link>
		<dc:creator>RSchewe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with 83 (Matt).  Combine the Stop/Reload buttons into one.  I use and extension to get the feature but to should be standard.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/313</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with 83 (Matt).  Combine the Stop/Reload buttons into one.  I use and extension to get the feature but to should be standard.</p>
<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/313" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/313</a></p>
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		<title>By: darkangel</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-37250</link>
		<dc:creator>darkangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to have to say it, but these icons are ... fugly. I far prefer the icons from FF 2, and the tabs as well.

I&#039;m sure the IconFactory can do much better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to have to say it, but these icons are &#8230; fugly. I far prefer the icons from FF 2, and the tabs as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the IconFactory can do much better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-35233</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not entirely sure you&#039;re putting enough thought into usability.  The buttons are potentially pretty enough, but are they useful?  Is the Back button so much more important than the Forward button that it needs to be twice the size?  And just by looking at those buttons, I wouldn&#039;t know how to show my history menu?  Are the Back and Forward history menus combined, or is the small menu arrow beside the Forward button only for the Forward history menu?

I also strongly agree with those who say that the Home button should stay on the navigation bar.  Users think of their Home page as more of a baseline or starting point for browsing rather than a bookmark, which puts it conceptually on the Navigation bar.  Don&#039;t make users change their paradigm just because you think it would be more aesthetic!

Finally, if you&#039;re concerned about conservation of space, why not combine the Stop and Reload buttons, depending on the current state?  You can&#039;t Stop a page that has already stopped loading, and there&#039;s little sense in Reloading a page that is in the process of loading without Stopping it first.  This would actually improve usability by providing extra feedback about the status of the page -- in usability tests, I&#039;ve seen users compulsively click the Reload button in a futile attempt to make a page load faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not entirely sure you&#8217;re putting enough thought into usability.  The buttons are potentially pretty enough, but are they useful?  Is the Back button so much more important than the Forward button that it needs to be twice the size?  And just by looking at those buttons, I wouldn&#8217;t know how to show my history menu?  Are the Back and Forward history menus combined, or is the small menu arrow beside the Forward button only for the Forward history menu?</p>
<p>I also strongly agree with those who say that the Home button should stay on the navigation bar.  Users think of their Home page as more of a baseline or starting point for browsing rather than a bookmark, which puts it conceptually on the Navigation bar.  Don&#8217;t make users change their paradigm just because you think it would be more aesthetic!</p>
<p>Finally, if you&#8217;re concerned about conservation of space, why not combine the Stop and Reload buttons, depending on the current state?  You can&#8217;t Stop a page that has already stopped loading, and there&#8217;s little sense in Reloading a page that is in the process of loading without Stopping it first.  This would actually improve usability by providing extra feedback about the status of the page &#8212; in usability tests, I&#8217;ve seen users compulsively click the Reload button in a futile attempt to make a page load faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Khufu_I</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-34857</link>
		<dc:creator>Khufu_I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The themes look very nice, but I think the stop button in vista should be red. Just because most things related to stop are red, such as a stop sign, streetlights, and the taillights of a car. Also some people have mentioned this already and I agree that the menu bar should be hidden by default under vista and if the navigation toolbar could be on a translucent  background it would fit so much better into the Vista Aero theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The themes look very nice, but I think the stop button in vista should be red. Just because most things related to stop are red, such as a stop sign, streetlights, and the taillights of a car. Also some people have mentioned this already and I agree that the menu bar should be hidden by default under vista and if the navigation toolbar could be on a translucent  background it would fit so much better into the Vista Aero theme.</p>
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		<title>By: Friendly_GUI</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2008/01/22/navigation-toolbar-on-windows/comment-page-2/#comment-34732</link>
		<dc:creator>Friendly_GUI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vote for &quot;Home button should stay in navigation bar. Don’t move it to bookmarks place.&quot;

The home button is what people click on to get back to to their starting point or safe haven.  It is also use for company homepage in corporate environment.

Firefox interface should be design  based on users behavior.  Please don&#039;t make users change their natural behavior just to accommodate Firefox.  Not only that, it is confusing and difficult for average users to customize Firefox to work the way they want.

For the sake of Firefox and its users, please reconsider the comment that you made in Firefox Bug 417152 &quot;I agree that not
all users are going to quickly adapt to this relocation, but if it really
bothers them they do have access to a customization palette.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another vote for &#8220;Home button should stay in navigation bar. Don’t move it to bookmarks place.&#8221;</p>
<p>The home button is what people click on to get back to to their starting point or safe haven.  It is also use for company homepage in corporate environment.</p>
<p>Firefox interface should be design  based on users behavior.  Please don&#8217;t make users change their natural behavior just to accommodate Firefox.  Not only that, it is confusing and difficult for average users to customize Firefox to work the way they want.</p>
<p>For the sake of Firefox and its users, please reconsider the comment that you made in Firefox Bug 417152 &#8220;I agree that not<br />
all users are going to quickly adapt to this relocation, but if it really<br />
bothers them they do have access to a customization palette.&#8221;</p>
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