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	<title>Comments on: New Firefox Icon: Iteration 1</title>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137982</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 03:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this icon is the best among all the iterations you&#039;ve done so far. The flame look a lot stronger comparing to the lame feather tail in other iterations. This really looks good. I hope you guys stick to this one and make it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this icon is the best among all the iterations you&#8217;ve done so far. The flame look a lot stronger comparing to the lame feather tail in other iterations. This really looks good. I hope you guys stick to this one and make it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Persian</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137807</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Persian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like it</p>
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		<title>By: Gholam Hassan daryaie</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137702</link>
		<dc:creator>Gholam Hassan daryaie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank U very much for your valuable firefox,pls. let me be informed about the latest version whenever it is available.

kind Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank U very much for your valuable firefox,pls. let me be informed about the latest version whenever it is available.</p>
<p>kind Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Lee</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137363</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put me down for the old logo, too. It&#039;s quite lovely -- this strikes me as change for change&#039;s sake. The ambiguity between fur and flame in the old logo is a feature, not a bug, and its relative simplicity of line is both more visually appealing and better-suited to scaling to various bitmap sizes.  

I&#039;m also not a fan of the planet showing through the tail -- it screws with the spatial depth of the piece, making the fox seem flatter and less like he&#039;s emerging, turning and receding.  Another part of the problem is the removal of the ridge of fur along the fox&#039;s spine in favor of (sigh) a gradient -- this seriously undercuts his twisting motion.  By contrast the old logo implies a pleasantly pronounced circular motion that recalls the &quot;loading&quot; indicator and which, by creating a more visually forceful circular motion, is better able to evoke the connotations of that shape -- continuity, atomicity, and other nice things to have associated with a software project.  As others have noted, the fox now looks like a strangely tubular animal that&#039;s burning like a candle.

I don&#039;t mean to be negative in a reactionary way.  Keeping the brand fresh is an excellent goal.  But I think it&#039;s going to be very hard to retool the existing logo -- it is simply an excellent rendering of its basic visual idea.  If you want something satisfyingly new I think you&#039;re going to have to create something that&#039;s more substantially different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put me down for the old logo, too. It&#8217;s quite lovely &#8212; this strikes me as change for change&#8217;s sake. The ambiguity between fur and flame in the old logo is a feature, not a bug, and its relative simplicity of line is both more visually appealing and better-suited to scaling to various bitmap sizes.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also not a fan of the planet showing through the tail &#8212; it screws with the spatial depth of the piece, making the fox seem flatter and less like he&#8217;s emerging, turning and receding.  Another part of the problem is the removal of the ridge of fur along the fox&#8217;s spine in favor of (sigh) a gradient &#8212; this seriously undercuts his twisting motion.  By contrast the old logo implies a pleasantly pronounced circular motion that recalls the &#8220;loading&#8221; indicator and which, by creating a more visually forceful circular motion, is better able to evoke the connotations of that shape &#8212; continuity, atomicity, and other nice things to have associated with a software project.  As others have noted, the fox now looks like a strangely tubular animal that&#8217;s burning like a candle.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be negative in a reactionary way.  Keeping the brand fresh is an excellent goal.  But I think it&#8217;s going to be very hard to retool the existing logo &#8212; it is simply an excellent rendering of its basic visual idea.  If you want something satisfyingly new I think you&#8217;re going to have to create something that&#8217;s more substantially different.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137196</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 10:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, the old one is better; it is a simply stronger design. 

The draft logo in the OP is too fussy and &#039;obvious&#039; (cf. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Privy_Seal#Television_industry_term&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lord Privy Seal&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, the old one is better; it is a simply stronger design. </p>
<p>The draft logo in the OP is too fussy and &#8216;obvious&#8217; (cf. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Privy_Seal#Television_industry_term" rel="nofollow">Lord Privy Seal</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Leonardo Barros</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137097</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonardo Barros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is cool, but the tail is short.
Do not show the Earth. This not cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool, but the tail is short.<br />
Do not show the Earth. This not cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Blufyor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blufyor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fox looks too flat compared to the globe; it either needs to be given more dimension, or the globe needs to be drawn more matte-looking (as others have suggested).

Also, another vote for seeing a design with an actual Firefox/Red Panda. The facial markings, tail stripes, and black paws could make for a very eye-catching character.

Lastly, a more general suggestion that could apply to any of the new designs: the new icon could have photorealistic touches at the largest sizes, but would be simplified at the smaller sizes to keep it clearer. For example, the icon for Omniweb on OS X has mountain ranges, cloud wisps, and various other topographic details at 512px square, and the smaller icons are still recognizable as the same globe even though they have clearly been tweaked to stay crisp in list/column view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fox looks too flat compared to the globe; it either needs to be given more dimension, or the globe needs to be drawn more matte-looking (as others have suggested).</p>
<p>Also, another vote for seeing a design with an actual Firefox/Red Panda. The facial markings, tail stripes, and black paws could make for a very eye-catching character.</p>
<p>Lastly, a more general suggestion that could apply to any of the new designs: the new icon could have photorealistic touches at the largest sizes, but would be simplified at the smaller sizes to keep it clearer. For example, the icon for Omniweb on OS X has mountain ranges, cloud wisps, and various other topographic details at 512px square, and the smaller icons are still recognizable as the same globe even though they have clearly been tweaked to stay crisp in list/column view.</p>
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		<title>By: Stant</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137079</link>
		<dc:creator>Stant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with many others, that current logo is better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with many others, that current logo is better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Piro</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/05/15/new-firefox-icon-iteration-1/comment-page-1/#comment-137006</link>
		<dc:creator>Piro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the part of &quot;fox&quot; in the draft seems too blurred. The global shading behind the &quot;fox&quot; evokes some feeling to me: sluggish, not quick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the part of &#8220;fox&#8221; in the draft seems too blurred. The global shading behind the &#8220;fox&#8221; evokes some feeling to me: sluggish, not quick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: antistress</title>
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		<dc:creator>antistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is best in current icon is the end of the fox which is curved towards its head.
It feels more dynamic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is best in current icon is the end of the fox which is curved towards its head.<br />
It feels more dynamic</p>
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