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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3.5 and Privacy</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck!</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-146578</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just downloaded 3.5, but my bookmarks were filled with sites I deleted a long time ago. I was able to restore my current list of bookmarks, but it really bothered me that Firefox was able to restore those bookmarks. How can I wipe out my old bookmarks for good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just downloaded 3.5, but my bookmarks were filled with sites I deleted a long time ago. I was able to restore my current list of bookmarks, but it really bothered me that Firefox was able to restore those bookmarks. How can I wipe out my old bookmarks for good?</p>
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		<title>By: SLA80</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-145274</link>
		<dc:creator>SLA80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with BartZilla too.

In Firefox 2.0 there was an option to use a &quot;DOWNLOADED LIST of suspected sites&quot; (see screenshot):
http://bb.homelinux.org/en/firefox/antiphishadvanced.html
but it is gone in Firefox 3.0! Now you have no choice, there is only one option left, which was called &quot;check by asking [Google]&quot; in Firefox 2.0, and now it is renamed to &quot;Block reported attack sites&quot; and &quot;Block reported web forgeries&quot;. Note, that &quot;Google&quot; name is dropped, so uninformed users can&#039;t even KNOW that Google tracks all their traffic! Too bad. This is WRONG. Ability to use a &quot;downloaded list&quot; should be returned! Free Firefox!

Currently, Google tracks EVERY webpage you are viewing in Firefox 3 (!), but it CAN be disabled:

HOW-TO DISABLE GOOGLE SPYING IN FIREFOX 3.0/3.5:

1) Navigare to &quot;Tools / Options / Security&quot;.
2) UNcheck &quot;Block reported attack sites&quot;.
3) UNcheck &quot;Block reported web forgeries&quot;.
4) Click &quot;OK&quot; button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with BartZilla too.</p>
<p>In Firefox 2.0 there was an option to use a &#8220;DOWNLOADED LIST of suspected sites&#8221; (see screenshot):<br />
<a href="http://bb.homelinux.org/en/firefox/antiphishadvanced.html" rel="nofollow">http://bb.homelinux.org/en/firefox/antiphishadvanced.html</a><br />
but it is gone in Firefox 3.0! Now you have no choice, there is only one option left, which was called &#8220;check by asking [Google]&#8221; in Firefox 2.0, and now it is renamed to &#8220;Block reported attack sites&#8221; and &#8220;Block reported web forgeries&#8221;. Note, that &#8220;Google&#8221; name is dropped, so uninformed users can&#8217;t even KNOW that Google tracks all their traffic! Too bad. This is WRONG. Ability to use a &#8220;downloaded list&#8221; should be returned! Free Firefox!</p>
<p>Currently, Google tracks EVERY webpage you are viewing in Firefox 3 (!), but it CAN be disabled:</p>
<p>HOW-TO DISABLE GOOGLE SPYING IN FIREFOX 3.0/3.5:</p>
<p>1) Navigare to &#8220;Tools / Options / Security&#8221;.<br />
2) UNcheck &#8220;Block reported attack sites&#8221;.<br />
3) UNcheck &#8220;Block reported web forgeries&#8221;.<br />
4) Click &#8220;OK&#8221; button.</p>
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		<title>By: Old School</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-144618</link>
		<dc:creator>Old School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with &quot; BartZilla &quot;

I had 3.0 &quot;shoved down my throat&quot; when I did not upgrade from 2.0.
First thing I noticed was &quot;unauthorized&quot; changes to my bookmarks.
My favorite search engine was replaced with 
&quot;Google&quot;! and Google was installed in my browser!
&quot;Everyone&quot; knows that Google has cut a deal to supply the Government with information they gather on &quot;all&quot; computer users surfing habits &amp; subjects.

So Mozilla is carrying water for Google,that means that Mozilla is now helping in the collection of data on all of us.

I no longer recommend Mozilla to anyone. 

Just what I need,...to look up information on adult diapers for my parents,and Mozilla tells Google they are for me!
Anyone doing business with Google will not be doing business with me.

Good Bye Mozilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with &#8221; BartZilla &#8221;</p>
<p>I had 3.0 &#8220;shoved down my throat&#8221; when I did not upgrade from 2.0.<br />
First thing I noticed was &#8220;unauthorized&#8221; changes to my bookmarks.<br />
My favorite search engine was replaced with<br />
&#8220;Google&#8221;! and Google was installed in my browser!<br />
&#8220;Everyone&#8221; knows that Google has cut a deal to supply the Government with information they gather on &#8220;all&#8221; computer users surfing habits &amp; subjects.</p>
<p>So Mozilla is carrying water for Google,that means that Mozilla is now helping in the collection of data on all of us.</p>
<p>I no longer recommend Mozilla to anyone. </p>
<p>Just what I need,&#8230;to look up information on adult diapers for my parents,and Mozilla tells Google they are for me!<br />
Anyone doing business with Google will not be doing business with me.</p>
<p>Good Bye Mozilla.</p>
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		<title>By: BartZilla</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-144055</link>
		<dc:creator>BartZilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Firefox takes your privacy incredibly seriously (...)&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I strongly disagree with this claim. Firefox with each release adds more and more privacy invasive features. For example, in Firefox 3.5 there is, aside from so-called &quot;safebrowsing&quot; added in previous releases, another Google service integrated - geolocation. I don&#039;t think that you can claim that &quot;Firefox takes your privacy incredibly seriously&quot; while at the same time browser supports superflous unique identifier (aka &quot;reinvented cookie&quot; as &lt;a href=&quot;https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487467#c15&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gavin aptly described it&lt;/a&gt;).

Of course, so-called Google&#039;s &quot;safebrowsing&quot; is much more privacy-invasive than geolocation - apart from sending unique identifier with almost each connection related with &quot;safebrowsing&quot; (in wrkey parameter) there is also a possibility for Google in some cases to gather information about visited URLs. See my &lt;a href=&quot;http://bb.homelinux.org/firefox/sb2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demo&lt;/a&gt; (written more than half a year ago - it works with all Firefox versions starting from 3.0; for versions &gt;= 2 and &lt; 3.0 there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://bb.homelinux.org/firefox/sb/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another demo&lt;/a&gt;). It also works with &quot;private mode&quot; enabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Firefox takes your privacy incredibly seriously (&#8230;)</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I strongly disagree with this claim. Firefox with each release adds more and more privacy invasive features. For example, in Firefox 3.5 there is, aside from so-called &#8220;safebrowsing&#8221; added in previous releases, another Google service integrated &#8211; geolocation. I don&#8217;t think that you can claim that &#8220;Firefox takes your privacy incredibly seriously&#8221; while at the same time browser supports superflous unique identifier (aka &#8220;reinvented cookie&#8221; as <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487467#c15" rel="nofollow">Gavin aptly described it</a>).</p>
<p>Of course, so-called Google&#8217;s &#8220;safebrowsing&#8221; is much more privacy-invasive than geolocation &#8211; apart from sending unique identifier with almost each connection related with &#8220;safebrowsing&#8221; (in wrkey parameter) there is also a possibility for Google in some cases to gather information about visited URLs. See my <a href="http://bb.homelinux.org/firefox/sb2/" rel="nofollow">demo</a> (written more than half a year ago &#8211; it works with all Firefox versions starting from 3.0; for versions &gt;= 2 and &lt; 3.0 there is <a href="http://bb.homelinux.org/firefox/sb/" rel="nofollow">another demo</a>). It also works with &#8220;private mode&#8221; enabled.</p>
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		<title>By: Kamasama</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143935</link>
		<dc:creator>Kamasama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with others about it not closing the current window. I also like some of the things people brought up that were cut, like the black location bar (or some better visual cue) and the hide tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with others about it not closing the current window. I also like some of the things people brought up that were cut, like the black location bar (or some better visual cue) and the hide tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143930</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, is a privacy extension along the lines detailed in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/2/5/43412/24669&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this proposal&lt;/a&gt; feasible within the current privacy infrastructure of Fx3.5?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, is a privacy extension along the lines detailed in <a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/2/5/43412/24669" rel="nofollow">this proposal</a> feasible within the current privacy infrastructure of Fx3.5?</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Krämer</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143917</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Krämer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you could extend the private browsing by optionally using a tor proxy, if configured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you could extend the private browsing by optionally using a tor proxy, if configured.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Couprie</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143914</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Couprie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Semi-Portable Firefox.
I am interested to something like &quot;Portable Firefox&quot; installed on my hard disk in a partition other than C: . Does it exist ? Advantage : if Windows has an hard crash that need format of C: and reinstallation, this &quot;new Firefox&quot; will survive. The program and user data may be separated to need only 1 occurrence of the program if there are several users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Semi-Portable Firefox.<br />
I am interested to something like &#8220;Portable Firefox&#8221; installed on my hard disk in a partition other than C: . Does it exist ? Advantage : if Windows has an hard crash that need format of C: and reinstallation, this &#8220;new Firefox&#8221; will survive. The program and user data may be separated to need only 1 occurrence of the program if there are several users.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143374</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I thought I was following all of this pretty closely, and I have been using nightlies the whole time, but much of this is completely new to me.  Really great features.

I do have to agree with everyone else about how it closes all of the current tabs to enter private mode.  Chrome&#039;s method of using a new private window seems much better.  In situations where I want to leave my tabs open, at least the retroactive privacy options will work nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I thought I was following all of this pretty closely, and I have been using nightlies the whole time, but much of this is completely new to me.  Really great features.</p>
<p>I do have to agree with everyone else about how it closes all of the current tabs to enter private mode.  Chrome&#8217;s method of using a new private window seems much better.  In situations where I want to leave my tabs open, at least the retroactive privacy options will work nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian M</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/faaborg/2009/06/30/firefox-35-and-privacy/comment-page-1/#comment-143196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also prefer Chrome&#039;s dual-window private mode option - it allows me to leave a whole session open and usable while having private mode running at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also prefer Chrome&#8217;s dual-window private mode option &#8211; it allows me to leave a whole session open and usable while having private mode running at the same time.</p>
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