Comments on: the cost of monoculture http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/ Gen Kanai's Mozilla weblog Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:29:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mozilla in Asia » Blog Archive » the Security of Internet Banking in South Korea in 2010 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-106955 Mozilla in Asia » Blog Archive » the Security of Internet Banking in South Korea in 2010 Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:53:12 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-106955 [...] those of you who have followed my blog, you know that it has been 3 years since I first reported on the fact that Korea does not use SSL for secure transactions over the Interent but instead a PKI [...] [...] those of you who have followed my blog, you know that it has been 3 years since I first reported on the fact that Korea does not use SSL for secure transactions over the Interent but instead a PKI [...]

]]> By: Where's Walden? » Correcting a few misconceptions http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-103875 Where's Walden? » Correcting a few misconceptions Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:26:54 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-103875 [...] mostly uninformed on this topic; my knowledge comes primarily from Gen Kanai’s first post on the cost of monoculture in South Korea’s browser market. If I have misconstrued the narrative given in that post, I [...] [...] mostly uninformed on this topic; my knowledge comes primarily from Gen Kanai’s first post on the cost of monoculture in South Korea’s browser market. If I have misconstrued the narrative given in that post, I [...]

]]> By: PALADiN http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-99047 PALADiN Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:48:46 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-99047 All you need to do to get ActiveX functionality in Firefox is to install IE Tab or Coral IE Tab which supports AdBlock Plus in the IE engine and can sync cookies between IE and Firefox. IE Tab download: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 Coral IE Tab download: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10909 All you need to do to get ActiveX functionality in Firefox is to install IE Tab or Coral IE Tab which supports AdBlock Plus in the IE engine and can sync cookies between IE and Firefox.

IE Tab download:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

Coral IE Tab download:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10909

]]> By: Pavel http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-73084 Pavel Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:01:22 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-73084 The real problem they have, even if Mozilla plugin is officially supported and legislation fixed, is that all Web developers will be surprised to know that their code is not working the same in different browsers. Sometimes it doesn't work at all. They'll need to deal with that, and fixing that might be a real pain. The real problem they have, even if Mozilla plugin is officially supported and legislation fixed, is that all Web developers will be surprised to know that their code is not working the same in different browsers. Sometimes it doesn’t work at all.
They’ll need to deal with that, and fixing that might be a real pain.

]]> By: Bassexpander http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-71900 Bassexpander Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:27:04 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-71900 As someone living in Korea, I'll bet you my best pair of socks that some Korean with money/influence has a family member who makes heaps of money off of keeping all control of people's computers. That's often how it works in Korea. If the current system were to change, someone with power would lose money. That cannot be allowed by those making the money. As someone living in Korea, I’ll bet you my best pair of socks that some Korean with money/influence has a family member who makes heaps of money off of keeping all control of people’s computers. That’s often how it works in Korea. If the current system were to change, someone with power would lose money. That cannot be allowed by those making the money.

]]> By: err http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-23078 err Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:53:27 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-23078 Dan and Crowder this is not just a problem for Firefox, it essentially breaks every non Microsoft product on the planet. To re engineer every Browser on the planet to support one encryption system in one country would be throwing allot time and money at a problem with a relatively simple fix. just use the same superior open system as the rest of the world. Also you underestimate the legal and technical issues involved in building and maintaining your own version of a closed source product (Active X) that Microsoft owns. Dan and Crowder this is not just a problem for Firefox, it essentially breaks every non Microsoft product on the planet.
To re engineer every Browser on the planet to support one encryption system in one country would be throwing allot time and money at a problem with a relatively simple fix. just use the same superior open system as the rest of the world.
Also you underestimate the legal and technical issues involved in building and maintaining your own version of a closed source product (Active X) that Microsoft owns.

]]> By: dan http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-22789 dan Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:27:50 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-22789 "adding support for Active-X in Firefox opens Mozilla up to a whole host of issues where there is little benefit" Little benefit? I think your article does well enough to explain the huge problem; would solving this partly not be even a small benefit? I'd, and your article, would say so. “adding support for Active-X in Firefox opens Mozilla up to a whole host of issues where there is little benefit”
Little benefit? I think your article does well enough to explain the huge problem; would solving this partly not be even a small benefit? I’d, and your article, would say so.

]]> By: Simon http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-1172 Simon Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:11:45 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-1172 Enabling ActiveX support in Firefox, so missed the monoculture issue. ActiveX support in Firefox only works in Microsoft Windows, and presumably for these controls only in XP or earlier. My operating system of choice fixes all reported security issues, in all shipped applications, BEFORE they release a new version. MacOSX has never had a virus in the wild. Koreans presumably would like to be able to choose such an operating system for their online banking, rather than Microsoft's "we fix them after they start being exploited" approach to security. Enabling ActiveX support in Firefox, so missed the monoculture issue.

ActiveX support in Firefox only works in Microsoft Windows, and presumably for these controls only in XP or earlier.

My operating system of choice fixes all reported security issues, in all shipped applications, BEFORE they release a new version.

MacOSX has never had a virus in the wild.

Koreans presumably would like to be able to choose such an operating system for their online banking, rather than Microsoft’s “we fix them after they start being exploited” approach to security.

]]> By: sententia fredericiana » Von den Kosten einer Monokultur http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-13 sententia fredericiana » Von den Kosten einer Monokultur Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:34:09 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-13 [...] Gen Kanai, von Mozilla Japan, hat jüngst einen Artikel gebloggt von seinen Erfahrungen bei einem Besuch in Südkorea. “The cost of monoculture” hat er ihn getauft, und er handelt von der einzigartigen Internetlandschaft dort und von den Problemen, denen das “technologische Wunderland” gerade entgegensieht. Auszüge (Übersetzung von mir): Was würden Sie sagen wenn ich Ihnen erzähle, dass es ein Land gibt, das ein technologischer Vorreiter ist, als einer der Ersten E-Commerce eingeführt hat, Weltführer bei der Einführung von Mobiltelefonen der dritten Generation, beim kabellosen Breitband-Internet und bei Breitbandanschlüssen ist, und außerdem bei Blogs etc ganz vorne mitspielt. Klingt nach einem tollen Ort, oder? Ein technologisches Wunderland, reine Utopie? [...] [...] Gen Kanai, von Mozilla Japan, hat jüngst einen Artikel gebloggt von seinen Erfahrungen bei einem Besuch in Südkorea. “The cost of monoculture” hat er ihn getauft, und er handelt von der einzigartigen Internetlandschaft dort und von den Problemen, denen das “technologische Wunderland” gerade entgegensieht. Auszüge (Übersetzung von mir): Was würden Sie sagen wenn ich Ihnen erzähle, dass es ein Land gibt, das ein technologischer Vorreiter ist, als einer der Ersten E-Commerce eingeführt hat, Weltführer bei der Einführung von Mobiltelefonen der dritten Generation, beim kabellosen Breitband-Internet und bei Breitbandanschlüssen ist, und außerdem bei Blogs etc ganz vorne mitspielt. Klingt nach einem tollen Ort, oder? Ein technologisches Wunderland, reine Utopie? [...]

]]> By: OpenID http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/comment-page-1/#comment-12 OpenID Thu, 08 Mar 2007 05:05:03 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/2007/02/27/the-cost-of-monoculture/#comment-12 Whatever happened with <a href="http://www.mozilla.or.kr/zine/?p=542" rel="nofollow">this</a>? Whatever happened with this?

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