Meeting Notes

1-February-2012

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-01-31

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-01-31

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> andreasn

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Test Pilot
Tabs on Top
  • All seems well – this is moving on to beta!
Big Files
  • The first traces of an account manager and UI for creating accounts from the compose window has landed on the feature branch
Account Provisioning
  • Landed a fix that caused us to request XML from account providers twice.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 10
  • ESR and out today
Thunderbird 11
Thunderbird 12
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

  • Total message replaces the header section of emails by a nice html5 view (instead of a xulview) giving it plenty of feature but making this extension not compatible with others.

QA Updates

  • Had a major update testing event with low participation

  • Worked on 3.1.18
  • Worked on 10.0

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ADU 7.8MM

  • Pushing out Thunderbird 10 web updates and announcements

Infrastructure Update

  • In the process of moving MoMo infra to MoCo infra.

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 3.1.18 released

  • Thunderbird 10.0 final, 10.0 ESR releases on deck

Web Update

Documentation

Support

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  1. Thunderbird 10 support day is Thursday February 2 2012, this Thursday! We’d love your help to help the community find the hot TB10 issues, solve them and link to the issues on the February 2, 2012 Thunderbird Support Day Etherpad – Questions? Email rtanglao AT mozilla.com

  2. 610 new support topics (1615 one week ago without the stats bug) – Media:Thunderbird-GS-Stats-23-29January2012.pngNOTE: last week’s numbers are too low because GS’s stats (again like the stats bug of two weeks ago!) failed to work for Monday-Wednesday of last week
  3. Thunderbird 10 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB10 and tag them tb10
  4. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

25-January-2012

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-01-24

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-01-24

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> sancus

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Test Pilot
Tabs on Top
  • Fixed a bug that made buttons dragged beside the menubar have icons below text

  • Andreas will soon be landing a patch that will make the transition between the tab selector and message tabs easier on the eyes.
Big Files
Account Provisioner

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 10
  • Releases on Tuesday, Jan 31
Thunderbird 11
  • Going to beta next week

  • Has Tabs on Top
Thunderbird 12
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

Google-contacts will let you share and sync your address book with your gmail account.

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

  • Recent articles 1, 2

  • Thunderbird ADUs around 7.8MM w/ Germany, US, France, Japan, and Italy leading the way.
  • Release work, Tb 10 and ESR announcements.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • On-deck this week: Thunderbird 10.0b5, 10.0 final, 3.1.18, 3.1.17->10.0b4 major updates

Web Update

  • working on TB10 content updates

  • This week
    • Thunderbird ESR pages & website support for ESR builds

    • Getting ready for TB10 release
    • TB11 compatibility bump

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list

  1. Thunderbird 3.1 -> Thunderbird 10 upgrade test day is Thursday January 26 2012, this Thursday! If you want to help, create a new TB profile, revert to TB 3.1 and test upgrading with us on Thursday. Love to see you there! The more testing we do on Thursday, the less Support issues we’ll have when TB3.1 is EOL’ed.

  2. 1615 new support topics (542 one week ago) – Media:ThunderbirdGetSatisfactionMetrics16-22January2012-2012-01-23_1056.pngNOTE: last week’s numbers are low because GS’s stats failed to work for Monday-Wednesday of last week
  3. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 and tag them tb9
  4. Thunderbird 10 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB10 and tag them tb10 – TB10 Release is next week, so backup up your Thunderbird profile, and try the TB 10 beta today if you have some time!
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

18-January-2012

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-01-17

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-01-17

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> bwinton

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird ESR

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

  • Account provisioning has been delayed until TB 11 due to needing more technical information and more testing on the providers.

  • Will be disabled on Beta for the next week or so.
  • Will be re-enabled with the next merge to Aurora.
Test Pilot
Tabs on Top
  • Currently investigating ways of making the stacked QFB and Gloda search input less confusing, visually
Big Files
  • Nailing down UI; big pieces remaining:

    • Configuration UI

    • Conversion between regular and cloud attachments

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 10
  • Working on resolving the last few tracker bugs. Another beta this week, maybe one more at the start of next.

  • This release will form the basis of the ESR.
Thunderbird 11
Thunderbird 12
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • Now that the ESR has been announced, the EOL of 3.1.x will be 24th April 2012.

Extension of the week

Account Colors is a useful extension for people having more than one account, as each account is colored in a different color, so you know which one you are using (when reading or composing emails).

QA Updates

  • Usual maintenance and testing

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ESR announcement

  • Thunderbird ADUs back to 7.7 to 7.8MM a day led by Germany, US, France, Japan, Italy, Poland.
  • Getting ready for Tb10, web pages and announcements.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • Unthrottled major updates to Thunderbird 9.0.1

  • Firefox RelEng ESR tracking work in bug 717106. Need an equivalent for Thunderbird.
  • Continue work to build Thunderbird on Firefox infrastructure

Web Update

  • Account Provisioner fun last week!

  • Halfway through ispdb mail reviews, will be finishing them up after the meeting~
  • all outstanding l10n stuff has been merged, ready for TB10 whenever

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 542 new support topics (901 one week ago) – Media:ThunderbirdGSStats-9-15Jan2012-2012-01-16_1349.pngNOTE: these numbers are low because GS’s stats failed to work for Monday-Wednesday

  2. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 and tag them tb9 – Hot issue last week: [of Rich Text or Spreadsheet results in plaintext instead of HTML in Locales that use a comma i.e. ',' as a Decimal Point.] WORKAROUND: change Decimal Point to a period i.e. ‘.’ – bug 714115 – fixed in FF11/TB11 and hopefully in FF10/TB10
  3. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

11-January-2012

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-01-10

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-01-10

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> rebron

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Test Pilot
Tabs on Top
  • Andreas, Paenglab and Florian have been doing an awesome job landing theme fixups

  • We’ve been getting good feedback on tabs-on-top!
Big Files
Click-to-Web
  • We need further definition and input from the community before moving forward on this.

  • Project is on hold until further notice.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 10
Thunderbird 11
Thunderbird 12
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

  • Show all body parts Sometimes Thunderbird doesn’t show some attachments because the MUA that send it doesn’t respect standards. With this extension you’ll be able to see the attachment and even see it’s content if Thunderbird knows how to display the content.

QA Updates

  • Working on Releases

  • Usual bug and Test Case management
  • Will give a talk in Madrid this Friday on QA and Thunderbird

Marketing Updates

  • TB ADUs at 7.4MMM

  • 1st Test Pilot study targeted for TB Beta users this week.
  • Prepping for Tb 10.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 10.0b2 released

  • Thunderbird 3.1.17->9.0.1 major updates released

Web Update

  • Back from vacation, catching up with a *lot* of things

  • Outstanding L10N bugs and ISPDB review requests.
  • Kitsune analytics stuff
  • TB Nightly page
  • Lots of other stuff…

Documentation

Support

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  1. 901 new support topics (1147 two weeks ago) – Media:Thunderbird-GetSatisfaction-2-8Jan2012-2012-01-09_1617.png

  2. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 and tag them tb9 – Hot issue during the holidays: Folder panel has no content. JSON.parse: unexpected end of data Source File: chrome://messenger/content/folderPane.js – [bug 707329] – WORKAROUND: quit Thunderbird, delete folderTree.json, restart Thunderbird
  3. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory if you haven’t done so already.
  4. Experimental twice a day Thunderbird support report showing trending topics, ISPs, mail providers, tags, anti-virus and active contributors at thunderbirdrobot.posterous.com. Unfortunately due to what seems like a bug in the posterous API it’s truncated (same report from another developer). Luckily I have an email backup which I can use to fix it. Help wanted with the code: i) email to Posterous script, ii) post to API Posterous script; contact rtanglao AT mozilla.com or send me a github pull request
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

standard8, Usul, rebron, jb, bwinton, mconley, jenzed, roland, mconley, jhopkins, sancus, bienvenu, philipp

4-January-2012

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2012-01-03

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-01-03

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Usul

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
OpenSearch
Test Pilot

Some studies in the next week or two.

Tabs on Top
Big Files
Click-to-Web

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 9
  • 9.0.1 issue with Windows XP not working in 9.0.0 because of a runtime not being installed.

  • Postmortem will discuss this problem.
Thunderbird 10
  • beta1 on the beta channel

  • lightning should be available this week.
Thunderbird 11
  • Plugable-store landed we need more testing landed on xmas day (24th).
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

  • Sieve script editor. To manage sieve filters on your imap server. Not very user friendly but better than nothing.

QA Updates

  • Catching up

  • Hitting bug 629487 a lot today and – yesterday – making reading bugmail difficult

Marketing Updates

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

Web Update

Documentation

  • Catching up

Support

Lightning Updates

  • Need for 1.1.1 for windows dll issue. try to have it ASAP.

  • Next is 1.2beta.
  • Looking at triaging bugs.

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

Usul, Jb, standard8, bienvenu, rebron

21-December-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-12-20

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-12-20


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> jhopkins

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

  • Hashem Masoud for his strong involvement in bugzilla.

  • alta88 for his RSS feed handling improvements

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • UI and behaviour polish patch has landed (bug 700536)

  • We need to land a tiny patch that takes into account longer strings in buttons that was screwing up our layout somewhat (bug 711968)
OpenSearch
Test Pilot
  • a few fix-ups this week
Tabs on Top
  • On the brink of landing. I hope. Sid has noticed some issues with Tabs on Top and TestPilot, so he’s looking into that.
Big Files
Click-to-Web

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 9
  • Releasing today.
Thunderbird 10
  • Merges to beta today, will be doing builds later this week.
Thunderbird 11
  • Merges to aurora today.
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • Releasing 3.1.17 today

Extension of the week

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ADUs reached all time high 7.9MM last week, normalizing this week due to the holidays at around 7.6MM ADUs.

  • Tb 9 release work.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 9.0 beta 5

  • Thunderbird 9.0 final builds
  • Bug 710350 – Don’t hard-code ‘firefox’ and ‘fennec’ in misc.py
  • Bug 698843 – Build Thunderbird on Firefox infrastructure (should be getting some help from armenzg in the new year)

Web Update

  • TB9->10 compatiblity bump done, should go live on thursday

  • Over 50% of locales are done l10n for TB9 content updates, including all major ones
  • fought with webtrends a bunch last week for kitsune analysis, not done yet but today hopefully!

Documentation

Support

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  1. 1147 new support topics (1176 one week ago) – Media:Thunderbird-GetSatisfaction-stats-12-18Dec2011-2011-12-19_1453.png

  2. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 and tag them tb9
  3. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory
  4. Experimental twice a day Thunderbird support report showing trending topics, ISPs, mail providers, tags, anti-virus and active contributors at thunderbirdrobot.posterous.com. Unfortunately due to what seems like a bug in the posterous API it’s truncated (same report from another developer). Luckily I have an email backup which I can use to fix it. Help wanted with the code: i) email to Posterous script, ii) post to API Posterous script; contact rtanglao AT mozilla.com or send me a github pull request
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
  6. Happy Holidays and thanks to all who contributed to support in 2011! Thunderbird Get Satisfaction year in numbers work in progress: over 4000 topics solved by contributors and employees; over 25000 replies by contributors and employees

Lightning Updates

  • lightning 1.1 released to AMO yesterday

  • hope to have Thunderbird 10 and Lightning beta out for Christmas

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

  • no meeting next week

  • looking at how to move ispdb updates faster

Attendees

  • sancus, jenzed, standard8, rolandtanglao, rebron, gozer, jhopkins

14-December-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-12-13

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-12-13


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Usul (Standard8 afk)

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • Polish patch (bug 700536) has ui-r+, and is currently undergoing a few final changes from a code review

  • With fingers crossed, hope to land today or tomorrow.
  • This will fix a lot of the ugliness of the Account Provisioner currently in EarlyBird.
OpenSearch
Test Pilot
  • Did an initial small test on development channel this week and found a few issues. We’re fixing them up before pushing out the test to our beta users.

  • Privacy review completed with Sid, Chris, Rafael.
Tabs on Top
  • Getting really close with this – Andreas is just working on some last-minute themeing work to help make things easier for Lightning

  • Hopefully requesting ui-r today or tomorrow
Big Files
  • Prerequisite bug 708982 essentially done

  • Notification UI (“do you want to convert this attachment to a link?” prompt) moving along
  • Splitting front-end and back-end patches so Bienvenu and Squib don’t step on each other’s toes
Click-to-Web
  • A good chunk has been implemented – but we’re holding on this to focus on BigFiles.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 9
  • Releases next week. Final beta being produced on Tuesday.
Thunderbird 10
  • Merges to beta next week. Hope to have a build out just before Christmas.
Thunderbird 11
  • Merges to aurora on 20th.
Thunderbird 3.1.x
  • 3.1.17 being produced on Monday/Tuesday and will go to the beta channel.

Extension of the week

  • None

QA Updates

  • Working on releases

  • Catching up on bugmail

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ADUs remaining steady during the holidays.

  • Tb9 release for next week.
  • ESR communication.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • Thunderbird 9.0 beta4 on beta. 9.0 beta 5 ‘go’ expected today or tomorrow

  • Thunderbird 3.1.17 on betatest
  • bug 698843 – Build Thunderbird on Firefox infrastructure – this week: working on packaged tests
  • Thunderbird 9.0 final build planned for this weekend
  • bug 707792 – Port bug 549561 to Thunderbird to speed up mailbloat tests

Web Update

Documentation

  • working with practicum students; more drafts of:

    • anti-virus problems

    • performance issues
    • memory usage issues
    • Installing and Using another Language in the Dictionary
  • 12 emails (welcomes and / or redirects) to potential contributors
  • new contributor article: Avoiding quota limits on mail servers

Support

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  1. 1176 new support topics (1239 one week ago) – Thunderbird-GS-stats-5-11Dec2011-2011-12-12_1602.png

  2. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 (as of this writing current TB9 version is TB9 Beta 4) on Get Satisfaction please tag them appropriately i.e. “tb9b4” for beta 4, “tb9b5” for beta 5 and “tb9” for general Thunderbird 9 issues
  3. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory and tag yourself “Thunderbird”, “Support” and your city e.g. “Penang”. Contact Roland, rtanglao AT mozilla.com to get vouched! Roland will vouch for anybody on the tb-support-crew mailing list!
  4. Experimental twice a day Thunderbird support report showing trending topics, ISPs, mail providers, tags, anti-virus and active contributors at thunderbirdrobot.posterous.com. Unfortunately due to what seems like a bug in the posterous API it’s truncated (same report from another developer). Luckily I have an email backup which I can use to fix it. Help wanted with the code: i) email to Posterous script, ii) post to API Posterous script; contact rtanglao AT mozilla.com or send me a github pull request
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • ctypes-libical: Working on packaging and making unit tests run (needs nsIXULAppInfo)

  • cache with ics: Have a WiP patch that makes large cached ics calendars totally usable
  • tabs on top: patch in progress, looking good
  • Making sure strings are ready for the 20th

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

bwinton, mconley, gozer, jhopkins, rebron , usul

7-December-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-12-06

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-12-06


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

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Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> mconley

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • Has already landed

  • Still going through final polish and bug-fixing iterations
OpenSearch
  • Has already landed

  • Also going through final polish and bug-fixing iterations
Test Pilot
  • Hoping to push out some tests later this week to our beta users.

  • We’ll take a look at the results, but we’re not expecting anything conclusive there, because it’s a small data set – but it’ll be a good test of the Test Pilot infrastructure.
Tabs on Top
  • Going into final theming work – Andreas is working on OSX, and Richard Marti is finishing up Windows XP

  • A few final bugs got patched last week, but we’re getting super-close to something we can land

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 9
Thunderbird 10
  • Compatibility bump work in progress, should happen within the next couple of weeks.
Thunderbird 11
  • We’ve landed the patch that makes add-ons compatible by default

    • This does not apply to add-ons with binary components of course

    • AMO can override auto-compatibility of an add-on
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

  • signature Let’s you choose your signature on the fly via a menu item.

QA Updates

  • usual maintenance in bugzilla

  • some beta testing
  • It’s been very difficult to do work with e-mail and Bugzilla being down, but we’re managing.

Marketing Updates

  • Happy 7th Day Anniversary of Thunderbird 1.0 tomorrow, December 7.

  • Our high for ADUs at 7.8MM on 11/28. ADUs and downloads holding steady. Germany, US, France, Japan, Italy, and Poland leading the way.
  • Getting ready for Tb 9, pages are in process of getting localized and features getting communicated to local PR and marketing teams.
  • Week in the Life of Thunderbird User Test Pilot study, shooting to go into testing this week.

Infrastructure Update

  • MoCo is experiencing a huge outage of various services (email, calendar, AMO, etc) – luckily, the build infrastructure for Thunderbird has dodged the bullet

  • There *might* be some product impact with this outage

Build / Release Update

  • win32/mac/linux32 comm-central dep and leak test builds mostly green on Firefox staging

  • working on packaged tests next

Web Update

  • TB9 content updates will be ready for l10n today.

  • Have a fix for bug 661003 (kitsune analysis thing) but still waiting for email to come back so I can reset my webtrends password to finish this up…
  • TB 10 compatibility bump for add-ons should be done by the end of the week

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1239 new support topics (1115 one week ago) – 28-4DecemberThunderbirdGS-stats-2011-12-05_1320.png

  2. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 (as of this writing current TB9 version is TB9 Beta 3) on Get Satisfaction please tag them appropriately i.e. “tb9b3” for beta 3, “tb9b4” for beta 4 and “tb9” for general Thunderbird 9 issues
  3. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory and tag yourself “Thunderbird”, “Support” and your city e.g. “Tokyo”. Contact Roland, rtanglao AT mozilla.com to get vouched! Roland will vouch for anybody on the tb-support-crew mailing list!
  4. Experimental twice a day Thunderbird support report showing trending topics, ISPs, mail providers, tags, anti-virus and active contributors at thunderbirdrobot.posterous.com. Unfortunately due to what seems like a bug in the posterous API it’s truncated. Luckily I have an email backup which I can use to fix it.
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

30-November-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-29

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-11-29


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Roland

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
OpenSearch
Test Pilot
  • First study (“A Week in the Life of a Mail Client”) ready to go onto index-tb-dev.json; just waiting for Jono to merge it.
Folder/Account Summary
  • Nearing release of version 2.0 of the add-on

    • Post about this on Labs?
  • After that: merge into Thunderbird
Tabs on Top

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 9
  • beta 3 this week – will turn OFF hardware acceleration by default because there are very few usecases where Thunderbird benefits
Thunderbird 10
Thunderbird 11
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

Folder pane view switcher restores the arrow keys that let you switch folder views from say all to only folders with unread messages.

QA Updates

  • Following the winqual discussion for Firefox and getting ready for it.

  • Catching up on bugmail
  • Need to clean up litmus
  • Setting up new VMs

Marketing Updates

  • Normal season holiday patterns for Tb ADUs in the 7.0MM range.

  • Publishing latest survey results this week on Thunderbird blog
  • Getting ready for TB 9.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

  • jhopkins back from vacation, now located in Eastern time zone

  • continuing work to build Thunderbird on Firefox infrastructure; will add platforms this week

Web Update

  • Fixed email config issue with Yahoo

  • Working on some persistent error messages with kitsune
  • Improving website release process(script to copy locales & merge)

Documentation

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1115 new support topics (1419 one week ago) – Media:21-27NovemberGSThunderbirdSupportStats-2011-11-28_1513.png

  2. Thunderbird 8 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues found in TB8
  3. Thunderbird 9 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues or bugs found in TB9 (as of this writing current TB9 version is TB9 Beta 2) on Get Satisfaction please tag them appropriately i.e. “tb9b2” for beta 2, “tb9b3” for beta 3 and “tb9” for general Thunderbird 9 issues
  4. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory and tag yourself “Thunderbird”, “Support” and your city e.g. “Berlin”. Contact Roland, rtanglao AT mozilla.com to get vouched! Roland will vouch for anybody on the tb-support-crew mailing list!
  5. Love to hear your views on how we can grow the Thunderbird community of developers, support folks, QA folks, documentation folks, etc
  6. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • C code conversion almost complete

  • Microsoft Exchange provider hope to ship that as part of Lightning core in Lightning 1.2 or 1.3

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

dveditz, jenzed, standard8, usul, rolandtanglao, sancus, gozer, jhopkins, fallen, mconley,bwinton, bienvenu, jb

23-November-2011

Thunderbird Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-22

Filed under: Posts — Tags: — Jesper Kristensen @ 12:00 am

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-11-22


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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

  • Who’s taking minutes? –> Usul

  • Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
  • Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner
  • Going through more polish iterations – getting pretty close, just dealing with some smaller details
OpenSearch
Test Pilot
  • Starting to get the first tests up and running on our development channels

    • expect something next week for Aurora+beta + users with the extension

    • Only tests, see how the stats comes back from – data won’t be used to make decision.
    • making sure users experience is ok.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 8
  • shipped.
Thunderbird 9
  • Merge in 4 weeks.
Thunderbird 3.1.x

Extension of the week

  • Nostalgy : move and filter your email from your keyboard.

QA Updates

  • 81% coverage for Thunderbird 10′s last week’s testing events, 15 bugs found

    • Thank you if you participated
  • 38% coverage for Lightning 1.0′s test week, 4 bugs found
    • Thank you if you participated or tried to

Marketing Updates

  • Thunderbird ADUs reached high of 7.7MM led by Germany, US, France, Japan, Italy and Poland.

  • Tb 8 adoption rate very strong, 8 days to 50% of users compared to Thunderbird 7.0 12 days.

Next:

  • TB 9.

  • Publishing survey results.
  • Test Pilot studies, exploring “Broken Add-ons” survey in addition to “week in the life study”.

Infrastructure Update

  • Linux trunk build green on Firefox build infra.

Build / Release Update

jhopkins away this week

Web Update

  • Fixed a few small website bugs(earlybird favicon, etc)

  • Closed remaining TB6 & 7 l10n bugs, only TB8 ones are left.
  • wrote some code for AOL account provisioner based on previous documentation, but still don’t have any server to test on :(

Documentation

  • new snippet on MDN: Get MIME Headers for any message (thanks Protz!)

  • clean-up and maintenance on MDN
  • four major Knowledge Base article edits from contributors
  • training with practicum students on style, standards, etc

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

  1. 1419 new support topics (1549 one week ago) – Media:14-20November2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png

  2. Thunderbird 8 Support Issues – Please edit and add any issues found in TB8
  3. Support Contributors, please add yourself to the Mozillians directory and tag yourself “Thunderbird”, “Support” and your city e.g. “Manila”. Roland, rtanglao AT mozilla.com can vouch for you !
  4. Love to hear your views on how we can grow the Thunderbird community of developers, support folks, QA folks, documentation folks, etc
  5. See this week’s Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

Lightning Updates

  • Work on Ctypes, one unit test to fix.

    • some stuff to work out.
  • Long bug list and reviews.
  • Interesting stats on the calendar blog.

Status Updates

See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.

Roundtable Highlights

Attendees

Usul, Standard8, Fallen, Roland, Bienvenu, Rebron, Jenzed , Sancus, Gozer, dveditz

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