Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-17

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 17th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> davida

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Developer Update

• There will be a build 2 of RC 1.
  • Remaining code blockers ready to land waiting for tree to re-open following planned downtime of stage.mozilla.org.

  • Once blockers have landed we can start automation.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 6 (+3)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 0 (+0)

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 154 (+9)

QA Updates

_Going on_ :

Testing of RC1 going strong – we’ve reached 90% test coverage on the largest tests sets. Results are visible at <https://litmus.mozilla.org/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=56>. Missing tests are related to Proxies. The QA team is busy following bugs and test results as well as testing. The team would like to thank all the people who signed in and are participating or will participate.

_This week_ :

Focus is going to be on testing RC1/build2 and following bug reports. So our focus is going to be on litmus, build2 and bugzilla.

_Crash stats_ :

No stats this week as rc1 is unreleased. We would like to note that some people are crashing while sending emails, or are having issues with nightlies and sending emails. This is likely due to an api change in TB that affects enigmail – if you are using enigmail please update to the latest nightly which fixes the issue. http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/nightly.php

Marketing Updates

• Press Round-up: 44 total articles due to the US press tour some examples:
  • eWEEK: Mozilla Thunderbird 3 Offers Tabbed E-Mail, Filtered Search

  • ReadWriteWeb: Thunderbird 3, Raindrop and the Future of Mozilla Messaging
  • CNET News.com: Mozilla’s e-mail group looks toward the cloud
  • Web e-mail takes charge
• Still doing follow-ups for Thunderbird 3 and Raindrop.
• Resume press outreach for Thunderbird 3 as nearer to final and after Thanksgiving.

IT update

• Thunderbird 3.0 RC1 build1

• support.mozillamessaging.com
  • SVN

  • stage
  • trunk

• spreadthunderbird.com
  • Security updates

Documentation

• sick last week

In Progress

• folders (bug 414038)

• TB account for https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/
• Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
• activity manager (257942)

TODO

• msg headers (466025, 480623)

• new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
• TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
• collapsed threads (bug 496244 454829) (DavidA)

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week
   1. Cannot send email (ongoing issue with 2 AT&T Yahoo customers, no pattern, other AT&T Yahoo customers fine!)

   2. Cannot receive email
   3. migration to Vista and Windows 7 from XP – need to write a KB article for this
   4. email lost (fixed by compacting folders and deleting .msf)
   5. importing address books – need to write a KB article for this
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. 2 reports of not being able to send or receive email when upgrading 2.0.0.23 to TB 3 RC1 Build 1 non en-US version e.g. GB- fixed by copying signons.sqlite
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, TB3 Global Database KB
   1. theme work slowed because gozer was sidetracked into RC1 build work, looking to make much more progress this week

   2. Lightning Docs wiki page created with rough list of topics
4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 25/ day (176/7, slightly higher than last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics)

   2. total new topics:176 total replies: 64 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091110 #new support topics:20 resolved: 9

      2. date:20091111 #new support topics:29 resolved: 3
      3. date:20091112 #new support topics:28 resolved: 3
      4. date:20091113 #new support topics:24 resolved: 5
      5. date:20091114 #new support topics:13 resolved: 7
      6. date:20091115 #new support topics:13 resolved: 0
      7. date:20091116 #new support topics:1 resolved: 10
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 103 from pasa (many were about his problems but some helped others and welcome!), 8 from from gyurrika (thanks!) MoMo folks: 1 from Wayne Mery (thanks) 38 from Roland (down because I was sick for 2 days), Bienvenu 11 (thanks!), 3 from Standard8 (thanks), 7 from Kent James (thanks) 2 from Lighning team (thanks!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 64 – 38 = 26 (26 last week), 33 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 3 happy messages) – bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

• Last Week
  • Driving

  • Reviews
  • A11y/message header work
  • misc catchup
• This Week
  • Roadmap work

  • Reviews

Standard8

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• fix move/copy file menu not to allow move/copies to virtual folders, servers and other canFile==false folders, 3.0 and trunk bug 528690
• Fixed bug 527679 gloda indexing does not properly handle undone message deletions, 3.0 and trunk, with secret help from Asuth.
• Fixed bug 527836 – imap not setting public namespace from prefs correctly, 3.0 and trunk.
• Stop imap code touching prefs service off the ui thread bug 83489, trunk only
• Landed last fixes for bug 518678, fix copy chaining to same folder in copycompleted notification, and add unit test that asserts w/o fix, trunk only.
• Started looking at trunk regressions.
• Started thinking about TB 3.1

gozer

• Build
  • TB 3.0 RC1 Build1

  • Lightning trunk builds
  • Packaged gcc-4.3.3 and upgraded the linux slave to the Linux refplatform v20

• Web
  • Met with the TikiWiki folks at TikiFest4 – Montreal

  • Working with Gary@tiki to get more work done on the theme for SuMoMo
  • STB security updates
  • Tinderbox Pushlog updates

• Infrastructure
  • LAN hg.m.o mirror for the minis

clarkbw

• Last Week
  • Sick

  • Vacation
• This Week
  • Catch up on
    • ui-reviews

    • bugs
    • driving schedule
    • 3.1 roadmap

wsmwk

• audited and cleaned up numerous crash bugs

• began audit of sg/security bugs
• filed crash & hang bugs:
  • bug 528843 crash [@ nsRefPtr<nsSpeculativeScriptThread>::assign_assuming_AddRef(nsSpeculativeScriptThread*)]

  • bug 528505 hang after starting 3.0rc1
  • bug 528368 crash during spell check [@ nsTextServicesDocument::IsBlockNode(nsIContent*)]
  • bug 528345 crash composing message [@ FindNextNonWhitespaceSibling]
  • bug 527801 startup crash [@ js_LockGlobal]
  • bug 526935 crash [@ nsMsgDBView::NoteChange(unsigned int, int, int)]
• additional credits changes
• spot checked SM mailnews bugs
• set up bugzilla whine to monitor new crash bugs

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

rkent

rebron

• RC1 work.

• Working on PR contract for next few months, next year.
• Got Windows 7 up and running.
• Trying hard not to get sick.
• Taking vacation day on Friday.

Next week

• Website l10n driving.

• Add-ons contest scoping.

Tsk

• working and following rc1.

andreasn

Last week:

• Windows XP theme polish bug 526193

• Graphics for OSX forward/reply bug 512666
• Uploading sources bug 494804
• Added major Swedish ISP:s to config page

This week:

• Upload sources to svn

• More ISP:s to add (and get more people involved)
• More polish

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 527018, and bug 527324.

• Almost closed bug 493399.
• Reviewed bug 527595, and bug 526918.

This week:

• Review some bugs.

• Write some more code.
• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

roland

sgautherie

• Fixed (or in-progress) MailNews Core bugs:
  • bug 521618 Port |Bug 520339 – Remove leftovers from MOZ_COMPONENTLIB| to comm-central

  • bug 522713 Port |Bug 448602 – Have a way to enumerate event listeners| to comm-central (apps)
  • bug 524349 Port |Bug 517417 – access violation: while compiling xulrunner tries to test for Mercurial repositories above its build dir| to comm-central
  • bug 459693 Eliminate nsFileSpec and nsIFileSpec (references) from MailNews
  • bug 521624 Port |Bug 517355 – Restore OJI, Liveconnect and the JEP on the 1.9.2 branch on OS X| to comm-central (apps)

nth10sd

Fallen

• No Beta blocker bugs left (1 checkin open), waiting for the remaining locales until Nov 21st.

• Will release 1.0b1rc1 shortly after
• Working on buildbot part of making nightlys localized (bug 346278)
• Might need some help with the release engineering part of our beta release.

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-10

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 10th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> Standard8

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Developer Update

• Schedule:
  • Starting RC builds asap – once code blockers are down to zero.

  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 3 (-22)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 0 (-1)

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 145 (+18)

QA Updates

• Normal week – not much highlight to report

• Tested briefly the correctness patch – and some fallout
• Waiting for RC1

Topcrashes 3.0b4

• top 20, still about 1/3 fixed

• top 10 – no status change in top 10 since 10-27. red=needs attention, “+”=change from last meeting

Marketing Updates

• Wrapped up press tour. Finished meetings in New York and some Bay Area press about 25 briefings. Press was very receptive and excited about Thunderbird. Many reporters have some complicated email/communication lives. Will be resuming press activities after RC1/near launch date.

• Firefox 5th anniversary yesterday with 25% market share.

IT update

• support.mozillamessaging.com
  • production/staging/trunk setup almost complete

  • Theming work by Gary is in progress
• db.mozillamessaging.com
  • HA/Failover tests complete

  • MySQL-proxy still giving me a headache
• Thunderbird 3.0 RC1
  • Ready to go, awaiting green light
• Lightning trunk builds are in staging bug 527065

Documentation

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week, false alarm from McAfee for all non en-US versions (tested with German and GB versions
   1. Cannot send email (long drawn out GoDaddy problem which turned out to be the DSL provider, an AT&T reseller blocking outbound SMTP traffic to GoDaddy’s server)

   2. Cannot receive email
   3. migration to Vista and Windows 7 -Windows 7 64 bit + nvidia nview desktop = Saving attachments not working
   4. McAfee finds trojan – Roland to follow up with Carsten on German version false positive
   5. email lost (fixed by compacting folders and deleting .msf)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. Freezing intermittently when replying
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, TB3 Global Database KB\
   1. 1st crude iteration of MoMo SUMO theme by contractor Gary Cunningham-Lee who did the original SUMO theme, gozer is going to give him a sandbox to accelerate theme work so he can get it done quicker

   2. German student is going to write Lightning Docs in English first then German
4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 23/ day (162/7, slightly lower than last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics)

   2. total new topics:162 total replies: 98 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091103 #new support topics:27 resolved: 9

      2. date:20091104 #new support topics:27 resolved: 6
      3. date:20091105 #new support topics:25 resolved: 11
      4. date:20091106 #new support topics:16 resolved: 8
      5. date:20091107 #new support topics:13 resolved: 5
      6. date:20091108 #new support topics:12 resolved: 3
      7. date:20091109 #new support topics:22 resolved: 9
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 5 from TMZ (thanks!) 2 from gyurrika (thanks!), MoMo folks: 5 from Wayne Mery (thanks and welcome!) 63 from Roland, 1 from Andreas (thanks!), Bienvenu 21 (thanks!), 2 from Standard8 (thanks), 3 from Kent James (thanks and welcome!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 98 – 62 = 36 (26 last week), 53 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 2 happy messages from Thunderbird lovers, 1 wanted us to run our own email service! Thanks!) – bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible

Roundtable

• What to do about major updates for TB 2 users on the beta update channels? – Needs further discussion later.

Status Updates

sid0

davida

• travel & press tour

dmose

• last week
  • press tour stuff

  • reviews/driving
  • a11y coding & test-writing bug 518337
• this week
  • land a11y code & tests bug 518337

  • roadmap work
  • start catching up on reviews
  • reviews/driving

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving

• bug 516776 Allow content browsing within Thunderbird.
  • And the documentation

  • Example extension: Google Calendar in a tab
• bug 527198 No requirement for dictionaries in language packs.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Fix handling of xlist with servers with non ‘/’ hierarchy delimiter, bug 527109
• Speed up imap move/copies of large numbers of messages, and reduce memory bloat bug 525646
• Fix updating of thread pane after imap compact with imap delete model and condstore, by just removing messages with imap deleted flag from view when expunge is done, bug 517198
• (re)show thread pane view after rebuilding index from properties dialog, bug 510643
• Gloda correctness patch testing

gozer

clarkbw

• ui-reviews

• driving
• Vacation coming
  • Thursday, Friday, and Monday

wsmwk

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

rkent

I’ve been continuing to get my extensions ready for release, but I still hope to squeeze bug 527629 into TB3, as it is a one-line fix of a regression from TB2 that will cause a lot of pain to POP3 users who rely on manual filters.

rebron

• Sent out notification email to Add-on developers. Got a few responses and following up on those.

• Admin stuff for press tours.
• Starting work on Add-ons contest.

Tsk

andreasn

Last week:

• Fixed a bunch of polish bugs bug 526909, bug 527088, bug 460647, bug 525232, bug 507508, bug 525832

• Started sorting all the source images. bug 494804

This week:

• Look into bug 525971, bug 526193, bug 512666 bug 525628

• Blog about the search interface
• Report Swedish ISP:s to the database
• Possibly get some more small icon fixes in.
• Continue sorting and uploading sources. bug 494804

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 516680, bug 526473, bug 525718, bug 248681, and bug 526995.

• Reviewed bug 519280, bug 525302, bug 522253, and bug 518337.
• Checked in bug 518840.
• Posted patches for bug 527018 and bug 525302.
• Investigated bug 527111.
• Talked about ISPDB/Autoconfig security.

This week:

• Review some bugs.

• Write some more code.
• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

roland

sgautherie

• Fixed (or in-progress) MailNews Core bugs:
  • bug 521293 Port |Bug 515777 – move css files, hiddenWindow.html to jar| to comm-central (apps)

nth10sd

Fallen

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Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-11-03

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, November 3rd, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> clarkbw

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze

Closed

Thunderbird 3

• Now in String freeze

• Branching completed
• Schedule:
  • Blockers to zero: 2009-11-06 23:59 PST

  • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-09
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 25 (-9)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 1 (+1)

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 127 (+11)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.

QA Updates

• Normal bugday last week

• Ready to test RC1
• This week will be RC1 testing – as soon as we get the build.

Topcrashes 3.0b4

• top 20, about 1/3 fixed – which is great

• top 10 (”+” indicates change from last meeting) – no appreciable change in top 10 since 10-27:

Marketing Updates

• Press Tour Update – Completed press tour in Paris, Munich, and Tokyo. Everything going very smoothly. Had a great press conference in Tokyo with over 35 reporters with an additional 6 more interviews later in the week. Mozilla Japan has a very strong marketing team. Press has been very receptive to Thunderbird 3, all the new features, and the future ahead for our team.

• Will be wrapping up press tour this week in New York and on the West Coast.

IT update

• 2 Minis now in production

• SUMO
  • stage support.mozillamessaging.com

  • Backend ready for production

Documentation

Done / Cleared

• activity manager (bug 257942, [1], [2]) (pending review)
  • Activity Manager Overview

  • Activity Manager Interfaces
  • Activity Manager Examples
• review newsgroups – tips
• bug triage
• hair-pulling MDC problems

In Progress

• folders (bug 414038) (summarize current / ask Bienvenu for help)

• TB account for https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/
• markers for TODO items on how-to portal pages
• Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
• activity manager (257942)

TODO

• support search FAQ: tweak screenshots, edits, SUMO account, etc

• msg headers (466025, 480623)
• new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
• TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
• collapsed threads (bug 496244 454829) (DavidA)

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week, possible McAfee false alarm
   1. Cannot send email (Verizon blocking port 25 starting fall 2009, AT&T percent sign in outgoing email due to wrong setting from AT&T support ?!?)

   2. Cannot receive email
   3. migration to Vista and Windows 7 – it works well for some not so well for others, most just need settings and migration help, be great if MozBackup or something like it was built-in
   4. McAfee finds trojan – probably false alarm, roland to follow up with Carsten and Sam
   5. email lost (fixed by compacting folders and deleting .msf)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. Windows 7
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, TB3 Global Database KB – 1st article from JenZed, thanks! – should have 1st iteration of MoMo SUMO theme by end of week from contractor Gary Cunningham-Lee who did the original SUMO theme
4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 26 / day (180/7, higher than last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics – not sure why)

   2. total new topics:180 total replies: 69 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091027 #new support topics:23 resolved:9

      2. date:20091028 #new support topics:24 resolved:8
      3. date:20091029 #new support topics:32 resolved:9
      4. date:20091030 #new support topics:25 resolved:7
      5. date:20091031 #new support topics:17 resolved:4
      6. date:20091101 #new support topics:9 resolved:0
      7. date:20091102 #new support topics:20 resolved:9
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 3 from TMZ (thanks!) 14 from gyurrika (thanks!), 2 from Thomas (thanks!) MoMo folks: 2 from Philipp of Lightning (thanks!) 43 from Roland, 2 from Andreas (thanks!), Bienvenu 8 (thanks!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 69 – 43 = 26 (50 last week), 56 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 2 happy messages from Thunderbird lovers, 1 wanted us to run our own email service! Thanks!) – bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

Standard8

• Illness slowed me down :-(

• Reviews & Driving
• Fixed bug 490817 and bug 525208 finally sorting out our EULA (removal)/License updates for TB 3.
• Made some good progress on bug 516776 – working on the final bits so that extensions should be able to provide content tabs that can load different pages.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Don’t try to update virtual folders when doing an offline download sync, bug 525842
• Clone note curiosity for cloned views, per asuth, bug 525419
• Handle failure to expand thread because of threading problems by listing w/o sub-threading, fixes subsequent crash on collapse, bug 524266
• Fix hang in cross-folder threaded mode, when multiple messages have the same key in a thread, bug 518128
• Fix crash when adding thread column to search results pane, bug 524673
• Fix crash doing a quick search in a grouped single folder saved search, bug 524064
• Fix for crash in nsNntpCacheStreamListener::OnStartRequest, bug 130442
• tested uber gloda correctness patch bug 465618

gozer

• Build
  • 2 minis now in production, building green

• Web
  • Worked on stage.support.mozillamessaging.com

• Infrastructure
  • Setup complete backend DB infrastructure for Webheads

  • Ready for serious database workloads

clarkbw

• driving

• ui-reviews
• Started marking 3.next add-on idea’s in bugzilla

wsmwk

crash triage

• new
  • bug 526047 [@ nsAddrDatabase::GetRowForCharColumn(unsigned short const*, unsigned int, int, int, nsIMdbRow**)]

  • bug 525517 [@ XPCCallContext::XPCCallContext(XPCContext::LangType, JSContext*, JSObject*, JSObject*, int, unsigned int, int*, int*)] ** SM topcrash, TB3.0b4 #67 crash

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

rkent

rebron

• In the middle of press tour. In New York through Wednesday evening and then Bay Area tour for Thursday-Friday.

Tsk

• Had one day off last week

• Finished preparing emails for people participating to the RC1 testing.

andreasn

• Last week
  • Icon polish bugs bug 525232, bug 525832, bug 507508

  • Mess header pane: bug 521334
  • Looked into bug 525971
  • Looked into the stange nordic character issue

• This week:
  • Organize and upload graphic source files for all themes: bug 494804

  • Finish bug 525628
  • More polish items

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 524246, and bug 521928. (And checked the code in myself!)

• Posted patches for bug 248681, and bug 516680.
• Created bug 524756.
• Reviewed bug 521334, bug 525532, bug 491294, and bug 524800.
• Pushed the changes for bug 519110.

This week:

• Finish off the blockers. (I hope to get these in today or tomorrow, depending on how fast I can get reviews, and how well the reviews go.)

• Review some more bugs.
• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

roland

sgautherie

nth10sd

Fallen

• bug 470430 is finally checked in!

• If you have ever used Sunbird, please check if you have an empty folder:
  • $HOME\Application Data\Mozilla\Extensions\{718*\calendar-timezones@mozilla.org

  • ~/.mozilla/extensions/{718*/calendar-timezones@mozilla.org
  • If so, please report to bug 470430

• Now only bug 494140 is separating us from a firm code freeze.

• Waiting for a few locales to finish, will nudge them soon.
• If all this is finished, we are ready for beta 1 candidates.

Attendees

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-27

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 27th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> Ludovic

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze

Closed

Thunderbird 3

• Now in String freeze

• Branching completed
• Schedule:
  • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST

  • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
  • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 34 (-3)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (-1)
  • GloDa patch: asuth still working through tests, likely to land today (Tues) or Weds
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 0 (-11)

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 116 (+16)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

• Held a regular bugday

• Daily triage seems to have gotten a few more people involved
• Regular bugday coming up this thursday
• Preparing for next week RC testing
• Might have a late Test day for the gloda correctness patch.

Topcrashes – 3.0b4 top 10 (”+” indicates change from last meeting):

Marketing Updates

IT update

• Raindrop Revealed

• New Linux buildslaves
  • Including Linux/mozmill in staging
• SUMO DB Cluster
• comm-1.9.1
  • Branched

  • L10n updates (complete & partial)

Documentation

Done / Cleared

• clean up Account Wizard references (re (bug 433801

• cleaned up cruft for MCD (redirect https://developer.mozilla.org/en/MCD to big page; copy links; straighten out confusion between MCD and MDC)
• rework how-to portal page – difficult to navigate, need to indicate TODO items to encourage contributions
• new MDC / newsgroup tip: running shell script from extension; getting add-on metadata (also categorize page)

In Progress

• activity manager (bug 257942, [1], [2])

• folders (bug 414038) (summarize current / ask Bienvenu for help)
• TB account for https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/
• markers for TODO items on how-to portal pages
• Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
• activity manager (257942)

TODO

• msg headers (466025, 480623)

• new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
• TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
• collapsed threads (bug 496244 454829) (DavidA)

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week, no Anti-Virus this week. Confirmed with ss that the anti-virus false alarms are simply mistakes by the Vendors i.e. AVG and Trend Micro and not a problem with the Thunderbird 2 process (i.e. vendors were notified for 2.0.0.23 properly)
   1. Cannot receive email

   2. Cannot send email
   3. Windows 7 – it works well for some not so well for others
   4. address book (how to use, how to export contacts)
   5. email lost (fixed by compacting folders and deleting .msf)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 restarts after closing

   2. Windows 7
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, gozer spinning up staging instance for this morning (Tues), looks like we can get inexpensive MoMo-ized port of Fennec theme from Gary Cunningham-Lee
4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 20 / day (143/7, basically same as l last week if we subtract the Raindrop topics)

   2. total new topics:143 total replies: 116 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091020 #new support topics:20 resolved: 11

      2. date:20091021 #new support topics:14 resolved: 6
      3. date:20091022 #new support topics:18 resolved: 11
      4. date:20091023 #new support topics:20 resolved: 22
      5. date:20091024 #new support topics:21 resolved: 4
      6. date:20091025 #new support topics:13 resolved: 3
      7. date:20091026 #new support topics:19 resolved: 7
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 1 from TMZ (thanks!) 18 from gyurrika (thanks and welcome!), 3 from Andrea (thanks!) MoMo folks: 2 from Philipp and 1 from Martin of Lightning (thanks!) 59 from Roland,19 from Ludo (thanks!) 1 from Mark Banner (thanks!), Bienvenu 9 (thanks!), 1 from Andrew Sutherland (thanks!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 109 – 59 = 50 (7 last week), 41 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 4 happy messages about Gloda! Thanks!) – bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving

• Fall-out from branching
• Setting up RC1 bugs etc
• bug 519192 Fix up context menu for gloda search results list tab – can’t move, copy, tag, mark messages etc
• We now have crash stacks on bloat builds (Windows won’t work till post-release).
• Further work on other blockers.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Fixed crash doing forward/back navigation in gloda search results list view, bug 523343
• Fixed crash doing a quick search in a grouped single folder saved search, bug 524064
• Fixed crash in nsNntpCacheStreamListener::OnStartRequest, bug 130442
• When probing for secure auth capabilities on 2.0 -> 3.0 upgrade, don’t trust gssapi, bug 522633
• Fixed detection of gmail trash so we won’t create our own trash, bug 519797
• Make mac generate unique file names when dragging attachments from mail messages, bug 413848
• Did some testing and reviewing of the in-progress gloda delete patch.

gozer

• Build
  • comm-1.9.1
    • branched

    • l10n updates
    • staging buildbot
    • tinderboxpushlog
  • New linux builders
    • production

    • staging: mozmill

• Web
  • SpreadThunderbird theme updates

• Infrastructure
  • SUMO DB Cluster

• Nice if people could test nightlie-l10n updates

clarkbw

wsmwk

• crash triage. Filed 11 crashers, 4 of which are fixed:
  • bug 522226 startup crash [@ __delayLoadHelper2]

  • bug 522327 FIXED clicking Go Back in search results [@ nsMsgDBView::NavigateFromPos(int, unsigned int, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, unsigned int*, int)]
  • bug 522561 replying to message that has attached eml [@ strlen | nsDateTimeFormatMac::FormatPRExplodedTime(nsILocale*, int, int, PRExplodedTime const*, nsAString_internal&)]
  • bug 522575 opening attachment [@ nsCounterManager::AddCounterResetsAndIncrements(nsIFrame*)]
  • bug 523114 FIXED reindex crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::ParseAdoptedMsgLine(char const*, unsigned int, int, nsIImapUrl*)]
  • bug 523343 FIXED [faceted search] results list crash [@ nsMsgDBView::MarkThreadRead(nsIMsgThread*, unsigned int, nsTArray<unsigned int>&, int)]
  • bug 523809 FIXED moving messages [@nsMsgDBView::GetThreadRootIndex(nsIMsgDBHdr*) ]
  • bug 523811 navigating news articles [@ nsNNTPProtocol::DisplayArticle(nsIInputStream*, unsigned int)]
  • bug 523815 [@ nsAccessible::QueryInterface(nsID const&, void**)]
  • bug 524315 shutdown hang, high cpu, no open imap connections, no ldap connections
  • bug 524462 startup crash [@ gfxWindowsFontGroup::WhichFontSupportsChar(nsTArray<nsRefPtr<FontEntry> > const&, unsigned int)]
• bug triage

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

rkent

rebron

Tsk

andreasn

• Last week
  • Mockup for bug 248681

  • Did patches for bug 519280, bug 523803, bug 524443
  • Hacked on account setup dialog
  • Hacked on header pane nits
  • Figured out why things didn’t build.

• This week
  • Finish bug 521334 and bug 515390

  • Figure out bug 524424
  • More wanted-tb3 bugs
  • More polish

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 522598, bug 491202, and bug 514850.

• Reviewed bug 489609, bug 518690, bug 518840, and bug 519110.
• Worked a bunch on bug 248681.
• Created the potentially-blocking bug 524246.
• Got write access to comm-central! Woot!

This week:

• Fix bug 521928 and bug 524246.

• Review some more bugs.
• See how far I can get on bug 248681.
• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

roland

sgautherie

nth10sd

Fallen

Attendees

bienvenu bwinton standard8 andreasn roland jenzed gozer wsmwk beckley

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-20

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 20th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> dmose

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Split the TODOs into two sections to so that we now have a short list of things that we really need to decide on.

  • Sent emails asking questions.
  • Will discuss remaining with Thunderbird drivers this week (probably via email).
  • Fire drill itself expected to happen after code freeze

Closed

Thunderbird 3

Branching

• Tracking bug bug 522211

• Branch Date: 22nd October.
• Expect tree closure whilst actual branch takes place.
• comm-1.9.1 repository has been created.
  • Please do not push to it until after we’ve announced the official branch.

  • You can however pull from it if you wish to set up new repositories before the branch – Standard8 is keeping it in sync a few times a day.
• Expect existing comm-central + mozilla-1.9.1 to archive the mozilla/ directory and swap back to mozilla-central.
  • Final details coming on/before the branch date.

RC1 etc

• Now in String freeze

• Schedule:
  • Creation of comm-1.9.1 branch: Thursday, 2009-10-22

  • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST
  • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
  • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 39 (-17)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (-1)
  • GloDa patch: asuth still working through tests, likely to land today (Tues) or Weds
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 11 (+1)

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 100 (+18)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

• Work on crasher is going strong

• Held the upgrade/migration day. We some of the bugs found are worth being fixed before the release :
  • bug 522631

  • bug 522633
  • bug 522902
• Update day was quite successful (6-7 IRC participants; more than previously)

• upcoming activities until RC1 builds :
  • Normal bug day

  • Cleaning up litmus wrt to email account creation
  • working on getting people on board for RC test week

Marketing Updates

• In the news: Windows 7 shipping on Thursday, there is no email client built-in so articles trickling in about what happens/alternatives/what to do

• Continuing prep for press tour which starts on Friday in Paris
• davida/dmose/rebron travelling for the next few weeks; will be available online, but intermittently

IT update

• AUS / l10n updates
  • comm-1.9.1 l10n updates disabled until we branch
• Getting ready for branching to comm-1.9.1
• SUMO infrastructure

Documentation (with musical interlude)

Done / Cleared

• gloda user FAQ (publication pending SUMO)

• Tutorial updates (new tools on AMO)
• cleanup: message view unused MDC page for [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490042 490042
• splitter resizing and overflow (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499543 bug 499543)
• new how-to Get Message Body by Header

In Progress

• more msg header stuff (466025, 480623)

• new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
• TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
• Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
• collapsed threads (496244 454829)
• activity manager (257942)
• folders (bug 414038)
• activity manager (bug 257942)
• collapsed threads (bug 496244 454829)

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week with the exception of the Trend Micro anti-virus false positive
   1. Cannot send email

   2. Cannot receive email
   3. Trend Micro Anti-virus (probably) false positive for thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (thanks to Carsten Book aka Tomcat of MoCo for contacting anti-virus folks so quickly ); Roland to email ss for details
   4. address book (how to use, how to export contacts)
   5. email lost (fixed by compacting folders and deleting .msf)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. ui change complaints (how to use gloda, gloda complaints)

   2. Reply All being default
   3. HTML 5 requests e.g. Video tag has no controller
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, verified polls worked for customer satisfaction, Roland going to delete test content with gozer’s help and put in JenZed’s Gloda user article as our first article, see if we can get tiki community to do barebones MoMo SUMO theme
4. Campus Reps students Thunderbird support – will ask for support help in Campus Reps Thunderbird Network
5. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 13 / day (94/7)

   2. total new topics:110 total replies: 74 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091013 #new support topics:14 resolved: 10

      2. date:20091014 #new support topics:17 resolved: 5
      3. date:20091015 #new support topics:15 resolved: 15
      4. date:20091016 #new support topics:11 resolved: 20
      5. date:20091017 #new support topics:5 resolved: 2
      6. date:20091018 #new support topics:2 resolved: 0
      7. date:20091019 #new support topics:11 resolved: 7
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks:2 from Joshua Cranmer of MoCo (thanks!) 9 from Andrea (thanks!) 4 from Thomas (thanks!) MoMo folks: 77 from Roland, 5 from Mark Banner (thanks!), Bienvenu 11 (thanks!), 1 from Andrew Sutherland (thanks)(
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 84 – 7 = 7 (13 last week), 27 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy but this week we had 1 happy message) – will write myself a bug to track down Hendrix for Thunderbird 3 and get rid of it as much as possible

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

last week

• driving

• reviews
• press tour prep
• misc other mgmt stuff

this week

• getting my tb bugs in shape

• leave for press tour
• start drafting post 3.0 roadmap stuff

Standard8

• Reviews and Driving

• Setting up the comm-1.9.1 branch
• bug 447927 Additional Email field of address book entries not included in address autocompletion.
• bug 522115 Picked up some work towards getting crash stack information on leak and bloat builds.
• bug 338549 Mailnews prompts – Have a pop patch working, trying to land the basic service.
• bug 516776 Make it possible for browser elements to navigate through links/pages.
  • Got some work done on making forms and some related items going.
• bug 522019 thunderbird shows blocked content when composing reply
  • Came up with patch and test cases.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Fixed crash trying to do back forward navigation in gloda search results, nsMsgDBView::NavigateFromPos bug 522327
• Fixed crash in nsLocalMailFolder::EndMessage by adding check for null copy state, bug 518678
• Fixed archive batching with non-monthly granularity, bug 518678
• Handle failure to stream offline imap message during compact, possible fix for bug 509748
• Fixed localization of smart folders inbox, bug 492739
• Make rebuild index clear offline store, bug 487992
• Fixed pop3 chaining to set the server not busy before setting the url state as done, fixes an issue with autoconfig logon verification, bug 520788
• Make archiving of read only folders do a copy, not a move, bug 522252
• Fixed crash in GetTableCreateIfMissing, bug 440236
• Batch updates from virtual folder change listener, bug 508978
• Fixed crash in CountTotalMimeAttachments, and add xpcshell test bug 505221
• Try to fix autosync stalling, bug 517256
• Fixed crash in SM switching quick searches in grouped mode, bug 520006

gozer

• Branching comm-1.9.1
  • buildbot changes are in staging
• AUS improvements for dealing with l10n updates
• l10n update generation improvements
• hit branch bug for l10n updates on comm-1.9.1
  • Will fix itself once we are branched
• SUMO
  • requirements review

  • production setup testing
• blogs.mozillamessaging.com
  • backend improvements

  • Wordpress upgraded

Vacation time: completed!

clarkbw

• 18+ ui-review backlog

• reply all toggle work bug 248681

wsmwk

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

• Need to be at two meetings in person today, will not attend here because of that

• Released SeaMonkey 2.0 RC 2 yesterday, if nothing bad happens, this should be converted to final next Tuesday!
• Check out developer interviews and an article about tabmail and other SeaMonkey mailnews improvements on the SeaMonkey blog!

rkent

rebron

• Organized press photos for davida,dmose, and myself for the press tour. Would be good to have for the whole team.

• Drafted email to add-on developers (need some feedback before we send out).
• Working on release notes and hoping to wrap that up by Thursday.
• Working with Firefox marketing team and looking to do a joint Firefox 5 year anniversary and Thunderbird 3 launch party.

Tsk

andreasn

• Last week
  • Implement Thunderbird icon across the application bug 519580

  • Did work on Autoconfig dialog odd in some locales bug 515390
  • Header pane nits bug 521334
  • New message status bug 516860

• This week
  • Feature change page look&feel bug bug 516884

  • More work on Autoconfig dialog bug 515390
  • More wanted-tb3 bugs
  • More polish

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 521955, bug 519505, bug 516884, and bug 522096.

• Posted patches for bug 522598, bug 248681, and bug 516844.
• Posted a screenshot for bug 522875.
• Got commit access to the ISPDB.
• Reviewed bug 518840, and bug 489609.
• Reopened bug 520391.

This week:

• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

• Polish off the rest of my blocker.
• See how far I can get on bug 248681 and bug 282278.
• Review some more bugs.

roland

sgautherie

• Fixed (or in-progress) MailNews Core bugs:
  • bug 459693 Eliminate nsFileSpec and nsIFileSpec (references) from MailNews

nth10sd

Fallen

Attendees

bwinton

DJ

rolandtanglao

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-13

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 13th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> davidb for davida

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
  • Split the TODOs into two sections to so that we now have a short list of things that we really need to decide on.

  • Sent emails asking questions.
  • Will discuss remaining with Thunderbird drivers this week (probably via email).

Closed

Thunderbird 3

• Now in String freeze

• Schedule:
  • Creation of comm-1.9.1 branch: 2009-10-22 (proposed)

  • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST
  • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
  • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 56 (-4)

  • TB 3 Needs: 2 (+1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 10 (-7)
• Wanted
  • Wanted Thunderbird 3: 274

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 82 (+19)

• Will remove from bugzilla the ability to request Wanted 3.0 flag since we’re so close to shipping.

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.
• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

Last week :

• Regular Triage event

• continued Crash monitoring
• Top crasher got a Testcase
• Looked into multilingual QA

This week :

• Update event – we’ll provide support for people updating from older versions of Thunderbird to either 3.0b4 or Latest nightly, more details at : Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-10-15

• Start thinking about testing for rc1

Topcrashes – 3.0b4 top 6 :

Standard8 suggested adding a metric of how many crashers per build users we have (e.g., how many crashers per b4 user).

Marketing Updates

• Press watch: End of the Email Era worth reading through the comments

• Press tour coordination.
• SpreadThunderbird has new theme on staging, launching with new theme this week.
• Handed off new icon, getting into builds soon. (still need to blog about it)
• Web localization handed off to pascalc and team. A few pages still in progress (release notes, features page needs screen shots, and press release).
• Going to contact top 300 or so add-on authors to tell them about 3.0 release schedule.

IT update

• bug 470679 – l10n nightly updates (complete+partials) available on comm-central trunk

• mini in production, building OS X comm-1.9.1 nightlies flawlessly so far
• bug 520628 – Planning production/staging infrastructure for MoMo SUMO

Documentation

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week with the exception of the AVG anti-virus false positive
   1. Cannot receive email

   2. Cannot send email
   3. AVG false positive for thunderbird 2.0.0.23 and firefox 3.5.3 (thanks to tomcat and sam sidler for their help in IRC to quickly resolve this)
   4. address book (how to use, how to export contacts)
   5. Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. ui change complaints (users want “old header” aka what the dev community calls “compact header” back, how to use gloda, gloda complaints)

   2. excessive gmail bandwidth from imap change to download all email, fixed in current i.e. post October 7, 2009 Thunderbird 3 nightlies
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, gozer spinning up 1.4.0.1 instance (thanks!) and Roland beginning to write content this week
4. Will engage Campus Reps students in Thunderbird support – call for volunteers email is going out this week
5. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 11 / day (78/7)

   2. total new topics:110 total replies: 74 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20091006 #new support topics:17 resolved: 8

      2. date:20091007 #new support topics:13 resolved: 7
      3. date:20091008 #new support topics:13 resolved: 3
      4. date:20091009 #new support topics:10 resolved: 5
      5. date:20091010 #new support topics:5 resolved: 3
      6. date:20091011 #new support topics:2 resolved: 0
      7. date:20091012 #new support topics:1 resolved: 0
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks:13 from Andrea (thanks!) 4 from Thomas (thanks!) 5 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks: 60 from Roland, 7 from Mark Banner (thanks!), Ludo 3 (thanks), Bienvenu 6 (thanks), Bryan 2 (thanks!), Asuth 1 (thanks!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 73 – 60 = 13 (28 last week), 50 Hendrix messages (generally Hendrix messages are unhappy)

Roundtable

Ludovic asked if we might have ispdb ready by rc1 – Blake thinks not…decided that we need something in the db for rc1, and Blake will schedule a follow-on meeting.

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

Standard8

• Reviews and Driving

• Thinking about security releases.
• A little bit of holiday.
• Resolved issue with trunk builds that stopped updates (and ssl) working.
• bug 520977 Dock icon doesn’t reset when it gets to zero unread messages.
• bug 338549 Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.
  • Happy with POP3 patch but a tester suggested it may not be quite right, need to investigate more.

asuth

• blocker work

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Fix hang on shutdown if you shutdown immediately after closing a compose window where you’ve done autocomplete against ssl ldap, bug 420744
• fix retention settings getting propagated from folder to server and thus to all folders on the server, bug 515316
• Make empty trash on smart folder empty all the trashes, bug 517723
• Only display start page once per life of thread pane/tab, part of bug 520272, speed up opening folders
• Make sure streaming imap messages with aLocalOnly set doesn’t sometimes fetch message from server, especially for compact offline store case, bug 519801
• Remove new mail account from old mail wizard for tb, bug 515479
• Clear pendingRemoval attribute after applying retention settings in case retention settings change so we don’t keep purging messages that no longer should be purged, and then redownloading them, bug 521134
• Detect empty upload file earlier on in process so we don’t get left hanging with an unfinished url, and keep trying to playback the offline upload, bug 497598

gozer

• Build
  • l10n updates live on comm-central trunk

  • momo-vm-leopard-02 imaged from a mini is in staging
  • Wrangled an interesting Apple gcc-4.2 bug bug 520401

• Web
  • MoMo SUMO bug 520628 work in progress

• Infrastructure
  • Production/Staging setup for SUMO

On vacation: Thursday+Friday

clarkbw

wsmwk

beckley

Penelope

• Some fixes to Who column display and some of the gloda integration to search, plus some auto-open mailbox improvements

• Hoping to get a new beta of Eudora/Penelope out this week

KaiRo

• Released SeaMonkey 2.0 RC 1 on Saturday – feedback quite good

• Driving SeaMonkey 2.0 final, hopefully final RC this week, release roughly a week after it if nothing bad comes in

rkent

rebron

Tsk

• see the QA update.

andreasn

• Last week:
  • Various polish fixes bug 522020, bug 491294, bug 522014, bug 508548, bug 521813

  • Header buttons on mac bug 520819
  • Autoconfig dialog stuff bug 515390

• This week
  • Implement Thunderbird icon across the application bug 519580

  • Autoconfig dialog odd in some locales bug 515390
  • Header pane nits bug 521334
  • Feature change page look&feel bug bug 516884
  • New message status bug 516860

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 494430, bug 490430, bug 518586, and bug 520457.

• Posted patches to bug 519505.
• Reviewed bug 511417, bug 519916, and bug 519110.

This week:

• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

• More work on the rest of my blockers, and maybe start into some tb3-wanted.
• Drive ISPDB RC1 discussion.

roland

This week:

• wee bit of Spread Thunderbird testing of new theme

sgautherie

• Fixed (or in-progress) MailNews Core bugs:
  • bug 513709 configure.in: Remove some useless vars, mozilla-* ones are enough

nth10sd

Attendees

asuth,bienvenu,dmose,clarkbw,roland,ludovic,andreasn,fallen,gozer,standard8,bwinton,rebron,rkent,beckley

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-10-06

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, October 6th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> rebron

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build

Closed

• Thunderbird security review completed last week.

Thunderbird 3

• Now in String freeze

• Schedule (proposed, may change):
  • Code Freeze for RC1: 2009-10-30 23:59 PST

  • L10n deadline: 2009-11-02 23:59 PST
  • RC1 builds start on: 2009-11-03
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 60 (-6)

  • TB 3 Needs: 1 (-1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 17 (+11)
• Wanted
  • Wanted Thunderbird 3: 272

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 63 (+24)

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

• topcrashes
  • needs help – if you crash with b4 take the time to read this, and see if those bugs are involved :
    • bug 513543 Crash [@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]

    • bug 518807 startup crash [@ nsRefPtr<ISearchManager>::StartAssignment()]

Last week :

• regular bugday not much to say

• volume of bugmail is getting up – if you want to help with bugs get in touch with ludovic@mozillamessaging.com.

This week :

• regular bugday event – join you are more then welcome :-)

• Initial 2. to 3.0 migration pushed up a week to be able to get more traction.

Marketing Updates

• Press tour is scheduled for France/Germany and Japan October 23 – 30.

• Web site l10n hand-off this week.

IT update

• Windows 7 SDK

• Mac Minis green in staging

Documentation

(Sorry for the lack of links – MDC is broken at the moment)

TODO:

• Tutorial updates (new tools on AMO)

• update MDC with status of Account Wizard

In progress:

• hooks for message header view (490042) / more msg header stuff (466025, 480623)

• new bug for debugging issues? (and close 420317?)
• TB usage of XUL elements, content-in-a-tab
• Mission control / autoconfig: MDC
• collapsed threads (496244 454829)
• activity manager (257942)
• folders (414038)

On hold (pending future dev):

• account wizard 433801, wiki

Done / cleared:

• symbol server on Linux / Mac (420317)

• form fill (510378)

Support

1. Top 5 GS Thunderbird 2 Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 ) basically the same as last week, more problems reported ths week with sending email
   1. Cannot send email

   2. Cannot receive email
   3. Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it, sometimes have to create new profile and migrate old email into new profile)
   4. Snow Leopard 1 Hendrix and 1 GS report of email opening slowly
   5. Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)
2. Thunderbird 3 Beta Top Support Issues (not many reported, starting to monitor to see what we can improve for post 3.0)
   1. minor dictionary issues: missing British English Dictionary and Australian Dictionary not working
3. SUMO for MoMo tracker ticket: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520628, depends on bugs to be filled in today
4. Will engage Campus Reps students in Thunderbird support – call for volunteers email will go out this week
5. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 15 / day (110/7)

   2. total new topics:110 total replies: 74 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20090929 #new support topics:14 resolved:4

      2. date:20090930 #new support topics:16 resolved:7
      3. date:20091001 #new support topics:21 resolved:7
      4. date:20091002 #new support topics:15 resolved:7
      5. date:20091003 #new support topics:6 resolved:5
      6. date:20091004 #new support topics:4 resolved:0
      7. date:20091005 #new support topics:4 resolved:0
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 7 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philipp!) 3 from Thomas (thanks!) 1 from TMZ (thanks) MoMo folks: 43 from Roland, 13 from Mark Banner (thanks!)
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 71 – 43 = 28, will incorporate hendrix for next week

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

davida

dmose

Standard8

• Reviews and Driving

• Provided input for an attended security review
• bug 519951 Closing a contentTab leaks an nsBrowserStatusFilter and others.
• bug 338549 Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.
  • Got POP3 patch almost ready for review.
• Proposed patch for bug 447927 Additional Email field of address book entries not included in address autocompletion (after updating patches on bug 455714 and then finding I couldn’t actually use them).

asuth

• Was on vacation.

• Working on blockers with a focus on gloda correctness.

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Fix bug 497338, 2.0 folders with unread view show as 0 in view menu
• Fixed leak of cloned view when toggling between threaded and not, bug 519736
• Pass along size retrieved when fetching body for offline use, in case size has changed, as it can with Exchange, and truncate offline store when newly downloaded offline msg is too small, bug 518702
• Fix exception starting up in special folder mode w/ no matching folders, bug 506632

gozer

clarkbw

wsmwk

• topcrash and crash filing, researching, and tracking. see QA updates
  • gloda inducing crashes appear to be the new wildcard

  • steady landings of crash patches generally speaking, so looking good
• triage, notably search, Mac sev=crit+major, and blocking-TB3+ QAWANTED
• now is the time to push any more bug 442222 Thunderbird 3 credits via credits webform

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

• SeaMonkey 2.0 driving – looking good for code freeze today midnight PDT and RC1 building tomorrow or the day after

• Attended MozCamp Prague
• Plans on getting KompoZer join comm-central are becoming more concrete, target is SeaMonkey 2.1 / Gecko 1.9.3, could influence Thunderbird HTML message compose

rkent

rebron

Tsk

last week :

• attended the bug day.

• attended the Prague devday:
  • Gave a talk about Tb3

  • Demoed – New account setup, Search etc ..
    • got very positive feedback pointed people to post it to mdat.
• attended the Moz Eu camp in prague
  • gave a talk with sipaq
    • Room packed

    • see above
    • Localizer are eagerly waiting for web content

andreasn

• Last week
  • theme preview images bug bug 509258

  • Autoconfig label appearance
  • Mac header button icons bug 519822
  • TB2 -TB3-b4 migration test
  • Vista address book fix bug 507595

• This week
  • Header button size bug 519688

  • Mac header button fixes bug 519822
  • Feature change page look&feel bug 516884
  • Polish for all themes
  • Nordic characters test (http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/nordic_characters_in_html_mails_does_not_show_correctly?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification )
  • give some older issues some updating

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 519429, bug 518171, and bug 516572.

• Posted patches to bug 519413, bug 490430, and bug 518586.
• Reviewed bug 511417, bug 518840, bug 519110, and bug 519916.
• Created bug 519464, bug 519982, and bug 520167.

This week:

• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

• More work on bug 518586, bug 515371, and the rest of my blockers.
• General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.

roland

sgautherie

• Eventually adding myself:
  • From now on, I’ll report (here) when I fix MailNews Core (or Thunderbird) bugs.

  • In case someone doesn’t know, I’m from the SeaMonkey team.
• Attended EU MozCamp 2009 in Prague.

nth10sd

Attendees

bwinton,sid0,davida,dmose,standard8,asuth,bienvenu,gozer,clarkbw,
wsmwk,Kairo,rebron,Tsk,andreasn,roland,sgautherie

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-29

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, September 29th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> gozer

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

Open

• We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what’s new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we’ve changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page. (jz: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3_for_users)

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build
• At 2:30 PDT tomorrow, there will be a Thunderbird security review, dmose will send out the details today

Closed

Thunderbird 3

• Schedule (proposed, may change):
  • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST

  • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+: 66 (-1)

  • TB 3 Needs: 2 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 6 (-14)
• Wanted
  • Wanted Thunderbird 3: 275

• Fixed RC1
  • TB 3.0rc1 – blocking: 39

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

3.0b4 topcrashers top 6. Note, all are *new* but 1.

• mime – bug 505221 – crash [@ CountTotalMimeAttachments(MimeContainer*)]
  • Got a profile from the user that can be used to reproduce this
• database – bug 513315 – crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]
• backend – bug 480090 – Crash when sending email after being in offline mode [@ morkRowObject::CloseRowObject(morkEnv*)] – [@ nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::SetCopiesToDB - nsMsgOfflineImapOperation::Release]
• mime – bug 513543 – Crash [@MimeInlineTextHTML_parse_eof ]
• database – bug 518671 – crash [@ nsXPConnect::GetRuntimeInstance()]
• unknown – bug 518807 – startup crash [@ nsRefPtr<ISearchManager>::StartAssignment()]

last week:

• Tried having simple thing to get more people onboard – Got one user who participated.

• Catching up on new crashers due to b4 being released – and monitoring closely
• Didn’t catchup on litmus yet
• Activity in bugzilla seems to be going up

This week :

• Normal regular bug day

• Working on migration Day

Next week :

• Migration day testing
  • Migrate from 1.5

  • Migrate from 2.0.x

And we’ll gather the data that can be gathered and get return of experience on it.

Marketing Updates

• Press Watch: 43 total articles for Beta 4 Latest Thunderbird rolls search changes 40k downloads to date

• Coordinating with German and French pr firms.
• Reviewer’s Guide on target for 9/30, working through marketing messaging w/ board members.
• Localization Checklist Working with Simon on announcement to l10n teams via blog post.
• Reviewing new SpreadThunderbird theme mockups w/ stb team. Thanks to Roland for finding the volunteer to help out.

IT update

• Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 Uptake
  • Beta 4 visits: 51k, Beta 3 max visits: 23k

  • Beta 4 AUS pings: 18k vs Beta 3 max AUS pings: 21k
• Minis are building in the ThunderbirdTest tree, looking promising

Documentation

• compact header (bug 480623)

• form fill (bug 510378)
• debugging Mac / Linux
• autoconfig / mission control (MDC: [1])
• collapsed threads (bug 496244 454829)
• activity manager (bug 257942)
• folders (bug 414038)
• move leak and bloat test docs from wiki to MDC

Support

1. Top 5 GS Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 )
   1. Cannot receive email (hotmail, other POP, imap)

   2. Cannot send email
   3. Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it, sometimes have to create new profile and migrate old email into new profile)
   4. Cannot migrate email from old profile to new profile or old computer to new computer
   5. Address Book (not visible, can’t undelete, lost, possibly related to these bugs found by Standard8: 486498, 299346, 394797 )
   6. Attachments (attachments not working, corrupted)
2. Support Plan for Thunderbird 3
   1. SUMO evaluation basically finished – have verified you can do localized knowledge base (i.e. create/modify in English, translate/modify in French) and can customize to remove Firefox-isms, will add link to report today (David Tenser needs report for MozCamp Europe)

   2. Top 10 Support Issues and Top 5 New Thunderbird 3 Features for Knowledge Base
3. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 15 / day (104/7)

   2. total new topics:104 total replies: 120 (Ruby Code)
      1. date:20090922 #new support topics:15 resolved:7

      2. date:20090923 #new support topics:19 resolved:10
      3. date:20090924 #new support topics:12 resolved:6
      4. date:20090925 #new support topics:18 resolved:13
      5. date:20090926 #new support topics:9 resolved:1
      6. date:20090927 #new support topics:4 resolved:5
      7. date:20090928 #new support topics:10 resolved:8
   3. #replies from non MoMo folks: 2 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philip!) 4 from TMZ MoMo folks: 82 from Roland, 5 from Mark Banner
   4. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 107 – 82 = 25

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

• Landed part of bug 515218. Working on the other part right now.

davida

dmose

• driving

• reviews
• message header toolbar customization work bug 465138

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving

• Held b4 post-mortem.
• bug 519041 Implemented context menu for context tabs (shared with message context menu).
• Added about:license to the list of about dialog items – remaining part of bug 480533.
• bug 505558 Improved about dialog buttons so locales aren’t struggling for horizontal width.
• bug 518175 Stop stripping mac nightlies.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Added autosync pr logging bug 518768
• Fixed empty new mail alert, bug 459045
• Make imap offline sync pay attention to db’s getting closed, should fix crash in morkRowObject::CloseRowObject bug 480090
• Handle case of duplicate special folders in an account, with smart folder mode, bug 516923
• Cleanup some of our shutdown w/ cleanup on exit handling to try to help with hangs on exit, bug 494014
• Relax size comparison on offline store messages because we seem to be off by one with gmail messages, stops autosync from stalling/repeatedly downloading messages bug 517466
• Use server’s identity for archive folder, if found, otherwise use hdr/x-mozilla-account key to determine identity, bug 511780
• Several other fixes awaiting reviews.

gozer

• Build
  • Mac Minis imaged and running

  • Better staging buildbot
  • buildbot/buildbotcustom updates
  • Question: How does one sanely netboots+reimages minis 100% remotely/unattended ?

• Web
  • ISPDB : Bugzilla component to the “Mozilla Messaging” product, file bugs!

• Infrastructure
  • Nice traffic increase due to beta4

  • Some performance improvements to the start page
  • DNS server updates

clarkbw

wsmwk

• topcrash and crash filing, researching, and tracking. see QA updates
  • created spreadsheet that may go public, but private for now. poke me if you want to see.
• trying to find my sync/non-gloda-indexing issues
• researched bugs for new meta bug 519202 incomplete/incorrect/inaccurate search or filter results … to focus on issues of bad search results [excepting of gloda]
• triage
• bug 442222 Thunderbird 3 credits
  • string changes completed

  • If you have any nominations, now is the time. No new nominations via credits webform so far.
• granted bugz privs to 1

beckley

Penelope

• Who column changes only blocker for next beta of Eudora 8/Penelope

• Added a pref which controls whether the application quits when the user closes the main window
• Working on a feature where selection change in the folder pane doesn’t update the mailbox displayed, but double-click (or Enter or some right-click context menu items) will open up the mailbox in a new tab/window
• Fixed the shortcut problems that were happening on Mac
• Lots of little bug fixes for the upcoming beta

KaiRo

• Filed a few bugs on ISPDB

• SeaMonkey 2.0 driving – progress is very good on that front

rkent

In the last week I completed a slew of bugs (that I can now checkin myself):

• bug 515927 – Marking message as not spam doesn’t clear deleted flag from message

• bug 517996 – Tools|Delete Mail Marked As Junk Folder not working in 20090921 nightly
• bug 518667 – crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::UpdateFolderWithListener(nsIMsgWindow*, nsIUrlListener*)]
• bug 505949 – Junk folder on Local Folders not created and possible data loss
• bug 462578 – Implement Quick Search option “Subject, Sender or Recipient” (Subject, From, To, CC or BCC) to allow filtering for full conversations with a contact easily
• bug 518188 – Body search term not available in Search Messages when “in” is an account
• bug 518565 – crash [@nsMsgFilterList::LoadTextFilters(nsIInputStream*) ]
• bug 518846 – search in searchbar should search by subject, from, to, cc, bcc

I have a couple of bugs in for review, neither of which are critical for TB3/SM2. Otherwise, although I watch the bug reports and user comments for issues in my areas, I am mostly focused on my extensions, which are way, way behind the backend features that have been implemented.

rebron

Tsk

• Finishing touches to 3.0b4

• usual bizness

This week :

• Preparing Eu moz camp 2009 talk

• Preparing Migration Day for next week
• usual bizness

andreasn

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 509044, and bug 478989.

• Posted a patch for bug 519429.
• Started work on bug 490430.
• Reviewed bug 518851, and bug 518840.
• Created bug 518614, and bug 519277.
• Code Sprint at U of T!!!
• Helped dmose with Windows css changes for bug 465138.

This week:

• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

• More work on bug 515371, and the rest of my blockers.
• General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.

roland

Last week:

• coordination work with potential new Spread Thunderbird theme and designer, Hubert Florin of agentic.ca

This week

• perhaps get working Spread Thunderbird theme to test from Hubert Florin

• get material to David Tenser for MozCamp Europe support presentation
• look at possibly getting campus students to help out with support

nth10sd

Attendees

bwinton, gozer, davida, rebron, standard8, dmose, bienvenu, KaiRo, jenzed, roland, Tsk, clarkbw

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-22

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, September 22th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> _Tsk_

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

• We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what’s new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we’ve changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page. (jz: see https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3_for_users)

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build

Open

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

• Release Driver: Standard8

• Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

• Schedule (proposed, may change):
  • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST

  • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
  • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 67 (+4)

  • TB 3 Needs: 2 (-1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 20 (+14)
• Wanted
  • Wanted Thunderbird 3 265

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. Tag it with a “polish” keyword, and nominate it for blocking-tb3?.

QA Updates

Last week:

• b4 tests builds were on time.

• Community joined the effort (with around 10/12 people testing.)
  • Test coverage is 95%. Mostly green

  • We’ll need to update some test – work is already in progress on that.
  • 29 Bugs were found during testing (some are duplicates), complete list of bug is visible here
  • Detailed results are visible on litmus
• Thanks to everybody who gave time to test

This week:

• Introduction to bug day day. A special day with easy tasks to do to get immediate reward on your work. To do so :
  • bug day will be focused on regression-window wanted

  • and qawanted bugs
  • Longer explanation are available at Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2009-09-24

Marketing Updates

• Press watch: Thunderbird Ups the Email Ante

• Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 – will be tracking press as it rolls in.
• Launch prep. Press tour scheduling, and asset work.
• Meeting w/ board this week to discuss marketing messages.

IT update

• Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 4

• ISPDB is open for public consumption
  • More tweaks pending
• Automation a few bugs so should be better next time.
• Mac minis are at gozer for more builders

Documentation

• tutorial tweaks / feedback

• TB 3 for users https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird_3_for_users
• review autoconfig material
• bugs

Support

1. Top 5 GS Support Topics (code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190923 )
   1. Cannot receive email (hotmail, other pop, imap)

   2. Cannot read old email (compact folders seems to fix it)
   3. Cannot migrate email from old profile to new profile or old computer to new computer
   4. Forwarding email (how to delete recipients address and forwarding doesn’t work)
   5. Attachments (computer hangs, thunderbird crashes, attachments corrupted)
2. Support Plan for Thunderbird 3
   1. behind on finishing SUMO evaluation, found a few bugs but appears to be functional for our needs – should be able to catch up this week

   2. behind defining KB issues & new features to document for Thunderbird 3 – should be able to catchup this week
3. Support Day: September 17, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific including Vancouver Mozilla Service Week event in the afternoon:
   1. solved a problem with gmail IMAP in #thunderbird, “solved” by upgrading to TB3 Beta3

   2. About a dozen folks at Service Week Event: very brief Thunderbird discussion was about Lightning and Calendering in general, majority was about CMSes like Drupal, WordPress and Joomla
4. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 15 / day

   2. total new topics:86 total replies: 111
   3. have ruby code in progress to semi-automate top 5 issues, relies on manual tagging, scheduled to finish this week
   4. #replies from non MoMo folks: 2 from Lightning folks (thanks Martin and Philip and wilkommen!) 8 from Tom (thanks!) 16 from TMZ (our newest official rep, thanks and welcome!) MoMo folks: 5 from Rafael (thanks!), 87 from Roland (I am going to do less this week to focus on Support Plan, SUMO, etc)
   5. happiness metric: API doesn’t have happiness emotitags, asked GS staff about that, code in progress: http://gist.github.com/190094, manual happiness metric = 91 – 87 = 4

Roundtable

during updates (beckley iirc), davida mentioned errutils extension for picking up keyboard events. This page for errutils and reporting tools is linked off of Thunderbird Extensions.

Status Updates

sid0

• Landed bug 517244 and bug 517087.

• Going to tackle bug 515218 in combination with new mail alert work next. Patch hopefully by the end of this week.

davida

• driving, driving, driving

• some bugs

dmose

• Mostly focussed on making headers customizable work (bug 465138)

• Misc reviews & landings
• Driving

Standard8

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• On vacation Wednesday-Sunday
• Make sure we force closed the db for imap folder getting deleted even if the folder doesn’t have the db cached, fixes issues with folders not disappearing after moving/deleting/emptying trash bug 513012
• Worked on rc1 blockers

Next week

• RC1 blockers

• Reviews and Driving

gozer

• Thunderbird 3.0 Beta 4
  • Build automation slowed things down some, next time will be great.
• Mac OS X comm-1.9.1 nightly builds are slower, but stable now
• Mac OS X comm-central nightly builds busted by what smells like a gcc bug bug 516858
• Mac Minis have arrived
• ISPDB tweaks and opening up
• SpreadThunderbird drupal updates

clarkbw

wsmwk

• bug 442222 Update About > Credits for Thunderbird3
  • revised form

  • added more names
• bug triage
• fixed 16 litmus tests, vetted about 25

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

• SeaMonkey 2.0 driving – final schedule is up at SeaMonkey:Releases:2.0 now

• Worked on Lightning support for SM 2.0 together with other SeaMonkey contributors, should be in good shape now
• Helped gozer with his questions on build automation

rkent

rebron

Last week

• Beta 4 work.

• More launch planning. Need to coordinate w/ Firefox team on timing.

This week

• Blog about Thunderbird icon and file bugs to include in product.

• Hand off web site content to l10n, pascalc, etc.

Tsk

Last week :

• TB3.0b4 testing

This week :

• focus back to try to get more people to the QA effort.

• clean up some litmus test
• catching up on bugmail

andreasn

• Last week
  • Blog post about gloda facets almost done

  • Account preferences sizes bug 416263
  • Vista autoconfig a11y issues bug
  • Some other Vista theme fixes bug 518106 bug 515390
  • Better new feed status bug 494777

• This week
  • Header area overlap bug 516277

  • Look into possible further changes to bug 516261
  • Make tags look nicer bug 513841
  • theme preview images bug 509258
  • vista smileys bug 515499

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 515599, bug 516353, bug 517134, and bug 517617.

• Got a client cert to test bug 515371.
• Almost posted a patch for bug 509044, but was stymied due to Windows build failures. (It builds now, so I should have a patch by end of day.

This week:

• Continue to help students with ISPDB.

• Code Sprint at U of T!!!
• More work on bug 516572, bug 509044, bug 478989, and bug 515371.
• General autoconfig error-handling cleanup.

roland

Last week:

• helped Rafael push out 6 or so updates for Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 mozillamessaging.com website updates

This week:

• Spread Thunderbird, coordinate pro-bono Drupal designer

• Perhaps start working with campus program students to help out with support

nth10sd

Attendees

bittin bwinton jenzed standard8 dmose _Tsk_ davida rebron gozer roland clarkbw bienvenu wsmwk beckley rkent andreas kairo

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-09-15

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Thunderbird Meeting Details :

• Tuesday, September 15th, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> Bienvenu

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Action Items

New

• We should engage the beta testing community in helping with the what’s new and release notes pages, especially explaining why we’ve changed things, and how to get back to the old behavior. jenzed suggested an MDC page.

• Planning for a dry-run security firedrill build

Open

• Autoconfig process
  • Mostly on hold during b4 push

  • Webapp currently being tested to fix some initial problems, will open up for broader testing soon
  • davida will be working with gozer on moving the webapp into a preview release
  • hopefully getting some review time from a django person
  • bwinton has been coordinating with Greg and students
    • 5 students across Canada
  • Join the ISPDB Google Group to participate in the discussion

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 4

• Build Process Started

• This week QA testing builds and release note preparations.
• Plan is to ship one week after builds are generated, with 2 or 3 days baking if we need to make a new build.

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b4 – blocking 2 (-26)
• Proposed Blocking (all milestones)
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 6 (-11)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b4 – blocking 123 (+41)
• 42 locales
• Release Driver: Standard8
• Build Engineer: gozer

Thunderbird 3

• Schedule (proposed, may change):
  • Final l10n String Freeze: Tuesday 29th Sept 23:59 PST

  • Approvals/Blockers only: from Tuesday 6th October 23:59 PST
  • Aiming to start RC1 builds on: 3rd Nov.
  • Subsequent RCs as necessary.

• Blockers
  • blocking-thunderbird3+ 63 (+4)

  • Chart
  • TB 3 Needs: 3 (-1)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (all): 6 (-11)
• Wanted
  • Wanted Thunderbird 3 267

• Please set bugs to assigned status (as well as owner to you) if you want to do them.

• If you have other bugs assigned to you that you don’t want to do, please reassign or discuss with drivers.
• If you see what look like theme/css issues, especially on Windows, please file a bug, with a screenshot, and the version of Windows you’re running. We need some way of marking these bugs to attract drivers’ attention.

QA Updates

• We had a interesting test day – with many bugs being filled. Thanks to everybody who participated. Thank you to everyone who participated.

• New search component under Thunderbird (see wswmk’s update)

• We are working on testing Thunderbird 3.0b4 this week. The sign-in system is good and we might have reached critical masses in order for that system to work.
  • if you want to participate send me an email with the os you are using (ludovic@mozillamessaging.com)

  • Starting to monitor Crash-stats for higher usage of the first official build.

• Reminder for developers to add unit tests when they add new features, or at least raise the in-testsuite flag on the corresponding bug.

Marketing Updates

• Press watch: How to Access Gmail When It’s Down; IT World: Firefox, Thunderbird tweaks and add ons worth looking at

• Coordinating with European and Japan teams on press tour, nailing down strategies and schedule.
• Sat in on Mozilla Marketing/Evangelism all hands/work week.
• Final iteration of logo with different sizes later this week.
• Drafted reviewer’s guide and press tour demo.

IT update

• SUMO 1.3 installed in Preview

• Release automation
• Looking at expanding build capacity (esp. on OS X)

Documentation

• first draft of tutorial is now “live” https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Building_a_Thunderbird_extension
  • cruft removed

  • content updated and “Thunderbirdified”
  • structured to allow for plugging-in other code samples (extensibility)
• working on dev-doc-needed bugs
• editing / consulting with Roland / support
• housekeeping how-tos (cleaning up new structure, tagging, linking, etc)
• when developers don’t have 3.0 blocker bugs, they should spend some time working with Jen, documenting what we’ve done in 3.0

Support

1. Top 5 GS Support Topics
   1. How to access and receive Hotmail from POP

   2. Email all gone/disappeared
   3. Thunderbird won’t start on Windows
   4. Unable to transfer email from Windows to Windows
   5. Cannot send email – get password prompt
2. Draft Support Plan for Thunderbird 3 – to be heavily iterated this week with rebron
3. Support Day: September 17, 2009, 9:30-5p.m. Pacific including Vancouver Mozilla Service Week event in the afternoon:
   1. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Support/GetSatisfaction/GSDay20090917
4. SUMO as Knowledge Base for MoMo evaluation in progress with gozer
5. Key Support stats from the following graphic:
   1. approximately 15 / day

   2. total new topics:82 total replies: 72 – fell a wee bit behind because of the long weekend
   3. have ruby code in progress to semi-automate metrics, relies on manual tagging
   4. #replies from non MoMo folks: 4 from Tom (thanks!) MoMo folks: 8 from Standard8 (thanks!), 2 from Rafael (thanks!) to be filled in later new users:
   5. happiness metric: to be filled in

Roundtable

Status Updates

sid0

• Landed bug 515151.

• Still working on bug 507593.

davida

dmose

• message header coding and review work

• misc driving

Standard8

• Reviews and Driving

• bug 514858 Cannot disable Shredder start page, regardless of setting
• Finally able to push – bug 511240 Provide feedback for loading of content within content tabs – as the core patch went into 1.9.1.
• Satchel is now built by default in TB 3 (bug 510378).
• Got an initial patch semi-working for pop3 on bug 338549 Mailnews account password prompts at startup no longer serial.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving

• Make sure smart folders persist the sort settings when we sort, bug 516143
• fix temporary hang leaving saved search folders before the search completes, bug 516388
• Fallback to all folders mode if we get an error starting up in folder pane rebuild, bug 516176
• Fix deleting from gloda search results view, bug 515860
• Make smart folders the default mode, and add new special folders to the right place in smart folders, bug 492922
• Don’t bother the user with imap alerts about failed connections when shutting down, potentially part of bug 494014
• Fixed bug 515516 smart folders accounts gets marked as local mail folder account, preventing us from creating an actual local folders account
• Fix initial sort of listed faceted search results, which fixed a crash showing that list.
• Make auto config the wizard for new profiles, bug 511308

Next week:

• On vacation Sept 16-18th

• rc1 blockers

gozer

• Thunderbird 3 Beta 4!

• Sunbird OS X l10n repacks working again

clarkbw

• reviews and driving

• focus on gloda faceting search results
• continuing on release blockers
• Bryan will be demoing TB 3.0 B4 in Vancouver tomorrow, specifically faceted search.

wsmwk

~4 weeks of info

• bug 442222 Update About > Credits for Thunderbird3
  • major updates of credits is in 3.0b4, as described in the bug

  • will post to mdat and drivers about accepting nominations after webform has been updated. please make nominations for credits based on the webform description (which may change shortly). We are using a criteria of the person made a significant contribution to a feature or features in thunderbird 3 / made a significant investment of time, with useful results … contributions can range from dev to bug triage to QA to marketing and more. Note, this is somewhat broader than “the release would not have happened were it not for their involvement.”
• monitoring crash stats and crash bugs for 3.0b4. filed:
  • bug 513315 crash [@ nsScriptSecurityManager::GetCurrentJSContext()]

  • bug 512171 crash [@ nsWindowSH::GetProperty(nsIXPConnectWrappedNative*, JSContext*, JSObject*, int, int*, int*)]
  • bug 515243 startup crash [@ nsGetInterface::operator()(nsID const&, void**)]
  • bug 515999 crash [@ nsTHashtable<nsBaseHashtableET<nsCStringHashKey, nsCString> >::s_InitEntry(PLDHashTable*, PLDHashEntryHdr*, void const*)]
  • bug 516047 crash [@ nsXULTreeGridCellAccessible::GetAttributesInternal(nsIPersistentProperties*)] (3.1a1 topcrash)
  • bug 512678 crash [@ nsPurpleBuffer::Put(nsISupports*)] during address autocomplete
  • bug 516427 crash (no laughing allowed)
• bug triage
• banging on gloda / search – looking good
• updated Component Watch List wiki
• search component
  • facet + gloda front end bugs (fixed and open) moved to search component

  • quick search bugs (open) moved to search component
  • do we want Search Messages and saved search folders to move to search component? thinking yes for SM and no for saved search (i.e. keep in folders and message list)
  • waiting on moving more – many should be triaged rather than just mass moved, like this subset (55 bugs). there are many more (184 bugs)
  • set your bugmail watches to search@thunderbird.bugs!
• setup vista build environment
• hosted Gary for 2 weeks – a good guest!

beckley

Penelope

• Some issues with the recent Eudora/Penelope beta are having us do a new beta based on TB 3.0b4 source code. Will be out soon after TB 3.0b4 is released.

• Having problems with arrow keys and Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo/Redo/SelectAll shortcuts not working in composition windows on Mac. Other shortcuts work, but having trouble figuring out what’s causing those few not to work.

KaiRo

• Released SeaMonkey 2.0 Beta 2 on Saturday – now has tabmail and can install Lightning!

rkent

rebron

Last week:

• More press tour/end game planning.

• Meetings w/ various mozilla marketing/evangelism folks.

This week:

• Focus on b4, web site content, press handling.

• Prep for following meeting with board/mitchell.
• Tb 3 press demo dry run next week (maybe).

Tsk

Last week :

• Organized test day

• Organized test week
• Participated to Faceted search test day
• Following and participated in Litmus 2 discussions
• Triage

Upcoming week :

• Release testing for 3.0b4

• Release testing for 3.0b4
• Release testing for 3.0b4

andreasn

• Last week:
  • Lots of Gloda faceting mockups and css bug 515653 bug 516261

  • Quick account setup work bug 506290
  • Vista icon fixes bug 516384

• This week:
  • More faceting layout work

  • And blog about the process
  • Account preferences sizes bug 416263 bug 516472 bug 516586
  • Vista autoconfig a11y issues
  • Some other Vista theme fixes

bwinton

Last week:

• Closed bug 506290, bug 490143, bug 490418, bug 501910, bug 465269, bug 470416, and bug 516087.

• Got something checked in for bug 516353.
• Reviewed bug 511308, and bug 492922.
• Created bug 515426.

This week:

• Help students get started on ISPDB.

• More work on bug 516353, bug 509044, bug 515371

roland

nth10sd

Attendees

andreas, asuth, bienvenu, bwinton, davida, gozer, wsmwk, standard8, ludovic, dmose, roland, rebron clarkbw