Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2009-01-06

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Jan 6th, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> bienvenu

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

Action Items

New

Open

• clarkbw - send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week

• dmose - triage [tb3needs] bugs

Closed

• dmose - Draw up a straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

• For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

• clarkbw is release driver

• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST
• Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 77 (+2)

  • TB 3 Needs (6)
  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 31 (+4)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 9 (0)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 21 (+3)

  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 13 (+2)

• We need to drive bugs with large string changes, e.g., archive, auto config, activity manager. Some way of marking bugs needing strings would be useful.
  • Archive is getting reviewed now

  • Activity Manager is also under review
  • AutoConfig is further away from review - will try to get it closer this week.
  • Multiple e-mail addresses and tags needs strings.

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap

QA Updates

• topcrashes
  • bug 471492 crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]

  • bug 422907 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)
  • bug 470804 NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (patch landed on trunk - not 1.9.1 or 1.8.x)
  • bug 470808 nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)
  • bug 470835 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly) (optimistically gone)
• bugday, first of 2009 focused on trunk (we’re losing ground on that front of the triage war)

Uncomfirmed bug count rose over the holidays and needs to be driven down.

• litmus: we can now get reports of updated/new litmus tests for Thunderbird only, which will help us to manage updating of tests

• crash-stats group has put up MTBF reports for milestone and development releases. It’s still a work in progress. And there is a bug outstanding that causes 3.0b1 (and b2pre?) to not be shown. On the development view, MTBF of 3.0b2pre is stated as over 10x better than 3.0b1pre, but crash rate appears to be about the same. Also note the data may not be accurate for the entire user population, as we think it doesn’t included data from users who have no crashes.
• crash stats helper

Roundtable

• Davida has been thinking about Post TB 3 issues.

• Dmose has proposed straw man schedule for TB 3 - blocking bug count needs to go down quickly in order for it to be realistic.

Status Updates

davida

dmose

• very fragmented 3-day week, including…
  • junk/unknown status discussion

  • tb3 driving work
  • a few reviews
  • various meetings

• goals for next two weeks:
  • improve efficiency of personal daily planning

  • figure out how to excise more distractions from my day
  • finish driving tb3 plan towards better alignment with reality
  • drive JS-in-mailnews patches into the tree
  • triage message-reader bugs
  • finish GloDa review

nth10sd

• Active discussions with Mozmill devs and Mark about the path of Mozmill moving forward.

• Mapping of Litmus tests with Mozmill tests are being done here.
  • First one sort-of finished

  • Latching on to one more in the coming weeks.
• Looking at more Litmus tests to be converted to Mozmill tests.
• Thunderbird bug progress through the years in a Rumbling Edge blog post.
• Usual occasional bug triage and (minor) patch writings.

jcranmer

Standard8

Non-goal activities:

• Reviews

• Trying to debug Mac random orange bug 462269, seem to have currently worked around the problem. Will observe over the next week or so.
• Made a start on the next round of Card -> Contact changes, see bug 126491, need to revisit patch

Two week goals (Start of week 2):

• Complete Password Manager migration
  • bug 472101 Drop nsIMsgIncomingServer::rememberPassword (unneeded option/preference)

  • All patches now up for reviews. See bug 239131, bug 433316, bug 419595
• Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)
  • Still awaiting resolution (stalled over new year).
• Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.
  • Todo
• Look at Performance tests
  • Get some rough ideas of what & how.

  • See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
    • This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.

asuth

bienvenu

• Reviews

• Fixed regression in cross-folders views handling of marking messages read, bug 472137
• Fixed regression in how we deal with invalid .msf files for local folders, including rebuild index, bug 471307
• Investigated problems in handling imap folder names that need to be munged, patch up for review bug 115091
• updated autoconfig repo with latest trunk, and fixed things that broke.

Two week goals (week 2)

• Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995
  • first patch is up for review. Other patches will be submitted soon.

Two week goals (week 1)
Get back to autoconfig repo; try to get pieces of it ready for review.

emre

• Two week goals
  • Finalizing activity manager and activity manager integration of core components.
    • bug 257942 in review
  • Implementing a two level auto-sync model for TB-Idle cases.
    • bug 471208 filed, and work initiated

gozer

• Build
  • Unit test buildbot master is brand new and all builders are slave to it

  • We now have unit test coverage on mozilla-central and releases/1.9.1 across all 3 platforms
  • Waterfall is public: Unittest Waterfall
• Infrastructure
  • Network outage took down lots of MoCo’s network, taking some of us down with it bug 471679

  • We now have the infrastructure in place to run our own:
    • Bouncer

    • Download mirror
  • Corporate website redesign is underway in its own branch
• Personnal
  • On vacation: Jan 9th - Jan 16th (on call)

clarkbw

• bug triage catching up

• driver work

wsmwk

• closed 33 bugs

• filed more crashes, topcrashes

beckley

Catching up after several weeks of vacation

Penelope

Final touches being made to next Eudora/Penelope betas:

• Builds will be made beginning of this week

• Release end of this week

KaiRo

rkent

I have soft tags working well enough now that I am running it as part of my normal email processing - though I have to run a custom TB build with several bug fixes to do that. I’m particularly pleased that the UI is so easy to use in the training. That is, once you turn on soft tagging for a particular tag, you then just continue to do manual tagging, including correcting of any tagging errors, and that does all of the training. I need to get any backend fixes into beta2 so that the TaQuilla soft-tagging extension can run with the standard release.

I will need to touch the Bayesian tokenizer to fix some issues that are arising in soft tagging (bug 472005). While I am at it I intend to revive my old spam corpus testing extension, and make some minor changes to the tokenization of headers, after I test to make sure that the changes are a net improvement in performance.

I am tempted to add the bayesian filter processing soon to RSS and newsgroups, as I can see that a big win for soft tagging would be to mark certain blogs or news posts as “interesting”, and then only read soft-tagged “interesting” posts when pressed for time - or sort them in “interesting” order, and read the more interesting first. This would be really useful in things like planet.mozilla, where there are more regular posts than I have time to read.

rebron

• Targeting mid-February launch for redesigned web site. Work is being done on this branch.

• I’ll be posting our proposed Conference/Event calendar this week. If there are conferences or events you’d like to attend or would like to see us there, please let me know.

Two Week Goal

• PR coordination.

• Continued web site work, coordinate web site localization.
• 2009 event planning.
• Continue work on Support/Help plan.

sipaq

mkmelin

Attendees

bienvenu, davida, dmose, clarkbw, beckley, Gary, Rafael, gozer (wants a pony), standard8

Platform/2009-01-06

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Details

• Tuesday - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 19:00 UTC

• Mozilla Building S - <script> conference room
• 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
• 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
• irc.mozilla.org #shiretoko for backchannel

Notices / Schedule

Beta 3

• notable dates:
  • String freeze has been declared - no new strings from here on in

  • Code freeze is January 13th, 11:59pm PDT
  • QA Start is January 15th, 9:00am PDT
  • Release is targeted at January 26th

Blocker Report

• Platform blocker queries

• 3.1 blocker queries
• blockers are trending down more slowly (holiday slowdown)
• 144 blockers marked fixed since December 1st, 2008
• 57 bugs approved for 1.9.1 since December 1st, 2008
• 105 bugs nominated for blocking since December 1st, 2008

Firefox 3.1 Update

• Blockers: 33 remaining & 15 nominations
  • 10 unprioritized blockers (bad beltzner!)

  • 10 Blockers to be fixed for Beta 3 (P1)
  • 15 Blockers to be fixed for RC (P2)
  • 5 unassigned blockers
  • 2 blockers need 1.9.1 landing
  • see also these other triage queries

• video scrubber is blocked up on some back end patches

• Polish update: Firefox is 22% shiny
  • 19 of 65 easy polish bugs fixed (whiteboard [polish-easy])

  • 3 of 37 hard polish bugs fixed (whiteboard [polish-hard])

GFX 1.9.1 Update

• GFX blocking 1.9.1+

• GFX wanted 1.9.1+
• Just blockers and more blockers
  • two bug chunks are imglib and dl fonts-related

Layout 1.9.1 Update

• Layout Blockers

• Layout wanted1.9.1+
• 22 Video/Audio blockers (1 P3), 5 SVG blockers (1 P3), 32 regular layout blockers (14 P3) almost entirely fuzz bugs
• Invalidation now testable

Content 1.9.1 Update

• Content 1.9.1 Bugs

• How are the “leak on topsite X” bugs being triaged?

JS 1.9.1

• JS 1.9.1 Bugs

• focusing on blockers
• fewer correctness bugs, more instances of 10/20/30% perf issues, etc.

Mobile 1.9.1 Update

General 1.9.1 Updates

Security

Security Reviews

Still outstanding / to be scheduled

• DNS prefetching

• Windows TSF integration
• elliptical border-radius

Booked but not yet completed

• native JSON (tentatively Friday Jan 9)

• Javascript Tracing (tentatively Tuesday Jan 13 after platform meeting)

Roundtable

• video scrubber is at risk due to some back end requirements
  • Umbrella: bug 462113 Implement progress bar / scrubber for video controls

  • Blocked by other bugs being investigated:
  • bug 464376 - progress events sometimes not getting fired
  • bug 470852 - new video controls trigger “Permission denied” error, don’t function
  • bug 472090 - DOMAttrModified doesn’t fire, breaks XUL <scale> in native anonymous XBL.
• Remove GUID from crash reporter — bug 444351

• end to end times: [1]
  • pooling unittests with build sped things up

  • talos still long pole

WeeklyUpdates/2009-01-05

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Meeting Details

• 1:00pm Pacific time (21:00 UTC until March 8, 2009)

• Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
• +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
• +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
• +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
• sip:weeklystatus@mozilla.com from generic SIP clients
• http://air.mozilla.com/ to watch and listen
• join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

WeeklyUpdate Live: You can watch the weekly meetings live at Air Mozilla You can also view previous meetings from the “on-demand” button on the Air Mozilla player. Meetings will be posted for on-demand consumption shortly after the meeting conclusion.

Friends of the Tree

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.6 / Major Update

• Thunderbird 2.0.0.19
  • Went live last Tuesday thanks to some holiday work by QA and build

  • Moving Thunderbird 2.0.0.x to 2-month releases (every 8 weeks or so)
  • Will likely be supported until six months after Thunderbird 3 release
• Firefox 2.0.0.20 -> 3.0.5 Major Update
  • Went to beta users last Monday

  • Localizers are currently working to get the new banner translated (36 done, 8 remain!)
  • Final release date a moving target, but aiming for late this week or early next
• Firefox 3.0.6
  • Code freeze is moved out to Wednesday, January 7 (at 11:59pm)

  • Does not move out final ship date of February 3
  • Currently 19 approved patches that need landing. Please land your patches.

Gecko 1.9.1

• New to the Platform Team:
  • David Bolter, working out of the Toronto office, a new accessibility engineer.

  • Jason Duell, Content Team, reporting to Johnny Stenback, networking code. YAY!
  • Nicholas Nethercote, Javascript Team, reporting to Robert Sayre, core Valgrind hacker.
• 38 Bugs blocking beta 3, down one from before holidays!
• Beta 3 code freeze is Jan 13.
• For weekly engineering meeting notes and other info see the Platform page.
• Interesting queries related to Gecko 1.9.1
• 153 1.9.1 blockers.
  • 38 Blocking 1.9.1 P1s

  • 67 Blocking 1.9.1 P2s
  • 24 Blocking 1.9.1 P3s
  • 24 Blocking 1.9.1 w/ no priority.

Firefox 3.1

Firefox 3.1 Beta 3

• Dec 31 Jan 1 - string freeze has come and gone

• Jan 13 - code freeze
• Jan 19 - QA start
• Jan 26 - ship to users

• workin’ on Beta 3 (triage queries)
  • Firefox 3.1 Nominations

  • Firefox 3.1 Blockers
  • Fixed Firefox 3.1 Blockers that need 1.9.1 landing
  • Firefox 3.1 - easy polish bugs we’re looking to take
  • Firefox 3.1 - hard polish bugs we’re looking to take

• New faces on the Firefox team - please say “hi” on IRC!
  • David Dahl (ddahl) - from ILM, author of the rCache add-on for Firefox and the Clarify Python wrapper for Tesseract OCR

  • Drew Willcoxon (adw) - from Stanford and University of Georgia, author of the Extend Firefox 3 winning TagSifter add-on, as well as several other projects (see his web page)

TB 3

• 3.0b2
  • String Freeze: Monday, 2009-02-02 23:59 Pacific

  • Code Freeze: Thursday, 2009-02-05 23:59 Pacific

Mobile

• Released Fennec Alpha 2
  • Very performance focused
• Windows Mobile builds are almost ready
  • Clearing the patch queue so we build directly from mozilla-central

IT

• Another slow week, ran through more kernel updates and a few RHEL5 upgrades.

• “We made life easier for IT” - justdave

Release Engineering

• Holiday releases:
  • all Partner Major updates released by 20dec2008

  • TB2.0.0.19 released on 30dec2008.
• DHCP woes closed tree 31dec2008; see bug 471679 for details
• FF2.0.0.20->FF3.0.5 vanilla MU ready to release (Thursday?)
• linux-mobile talos results now on graphs.m.o. Look for “Nokia N810″ platform. Still investigating Tp crash in bug 471585.

QA

Welcome Marco Zehe and Henrik Skupin as new employees!

Test Execution

• Major Update of Fx2.0.0.20 -> Fx3.0.5 shipped to Beta on 12/29 (al, juan)

• Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 shipped to World early on 12/30 (al, juan)
• Firefox 3.1 Feature testing progress:
  • Testplans (90% completed)

  • Testcases (76% completed)
• Community discussions beginning in the QMO forum
• Early stages of litmus redesign ideas

Web Dev Testing, Metrics, Accessibility, Localization, Crash Reports

• Tomcat attended the 25th Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin. See his report.

• Code Coverage metrics: Working on ways to drill down and to visualize the coverage. See sample bubble diagram. Size of each bubble is the number of change sets on that file.

Test Development

• Continuing to execute JavaScript tests with focus on mozilla-central (1.9.2), mozilla-1.9.1 (1.9.1) and tracemonkey (1.9.2) repositories while attempting to keep up to date with the most recent failures

• Continued development to support Sisyphus|Javascript testing against 1.9.2 - work tracked in bug 472144 and should land today.
• New Patches for CSS Transform and CSS Border-Radius tests
• Mozmill 1.0 release should be this week - still in find/fix cycle
• Investigated all reftest and mochitest failures on Fennec and filed bugs for them.
• Finding, minimizing and diagnosing crash and memory leaks: bug 471416, bug 471458, bug 471543, bug 471598 etc.
• Analyzed results from the 100,000 Topsite Test: ~ 70,000 Sites done so far with about 16,000 abnormal exits (for example: fatal assertions, crashes, etc); currently running a verification test for these abnormal results.
• Started a 100,000 top site run for the 1.9.0 branch. After it completes, plan to do a 35,000 site run continuously against that branch to help catch any future regressions.

Security

Marketing/PR

PR

• Firefox add-ons on the homepage on CNET’s download.com

• John Lilly interviewed in the LA Times
• Johnathan Nightingale quoted in BusinessWeek.com’s “Tech Beat”
• Ubiquity update covered in InternetNews and NewsFactor

Support

• No updates

Metrics

Evangelism

• Getting ready to start evaluating the upcoming Lyons release of Deki.

• Re-starting the newsletter next week - send stories to deb if you have them.

Labs

• Snowl 0.2rc1 released; looking for feedback; see blog post for details and to download.

• Weave milestone 2 for 0.3 released, now with Fennec support! See the Weave forum for details and download instructions.

• Ubiquity 0.1.3/0.1.4 released, as well as 0.2 preview featuring Feed Plugins, providing opportunities for security enhancement and exploration.

Developer Tools

Add-ons

• Rey Bango working on short term project to improve Add-ons approval and review process

• Cranked up recruiting for new editors, 2 new joined in the past two weeks, 5 from Seneca College starting, and we’re going to look into recruiting from universities for more volunteers. Working on ideas to better thank our top editors.
• Worked on tools and analysis for improving the breadth of featured and recommended addons
• 2009 planning- focus on improving add-on awareness and discovery, let Nick Nguyen know if you want to help.
• Early ideation and analysis around next generation of Add-ons, will formalize project soon so everyone can be involved.

Webdev

• Socorro launched 2 new reports
  • MTBF - example Thunderbird development

  • Top Crashers by URL example FF 3.0.5
• LizardFeeder went quietly into production.
  • More plans and narrative to come soon.
• Graph server 1.0 rewrite docs are up: Perfomatic#Rearchitecture
  • Migration during Q1.
• SUMO 0.8.1 code freeze tomorrow (pushed back)

L10n

• Updates to MCS by gandalf, see his blog post, new MCS theme for Wordpress

Foundation Updates

• It was a generally slow week, with some folks on vacation.

• Mark produced some initial notes on a possible Mozilla Foundation education program.
• David did updates to the Projects and History pages on www.mozilla.org (to add Fennec as a project, note Adobe Acrobat and Kirix Strata as applications using Mozilla technologies, and address comments raised in bug 471494).
• Frank continued participating in the public discussion about Comodo and Certstar.
• The new Mozilla shirt is now available in the International Store.
• And last but certainly not least, there’s a new member of the Boswell family.

Roundtable

Other Business

SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-12-30

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: December 30, 2008, 13:00 UTC

• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> Ratty

Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning

open wanted
wanted requests

Major wanted/needed features:

• bug 381157 Download manager.
  • …ongoing (see Callek’s status).
• bug 390025 Kill-wallet (password manager).
• bug 382187 Places history.
• bug 36810 Session restore.
• bug 394288 / bug 413385 Toolbar customization.
  • Started work on bug 471372 Customizable Toolbars in Navigator (Part 2). Patch is waiting for review.

  • Filed bug 471508 (Make the toolboxChanged() callback return useful information) so that we can reset our custom attributes if the reset button was pressed - Ratty.
• bug 456757 Modern theme update.
• bug 460699 Make the default theme look better on mac.
• bug 454847 Fishcam update.
  • Waiting on new http://www.fishcam.com/ (by the original fishcam creator) might just be what we are looking for.
• bug 410613 OpenSearch.
  • helpwanted.
• Handling bug 420506 Thunderbird kill-rdf.
• bug 415372 Implement Feed Preview.
  • asrail has taken over the assignment is working on this.

  • mcsmurf is working on bug 471346 (Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service) which is helpful for Feed Preview.
• bug 460960 Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews.
  • First full scale patch waiting for review.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what’s the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

• Started reviewing session store.

asrail

• bug 415372 Submitted a WIP for bug 415372. Waiting review from Callek, but already have addressed most comments from Ratty locally.

biesi

Callek

• My son was born on the 19th and been busy nearly these past few weeks with newborn child stuff. So got myself a bit delayed. I still expect to have DLMGR stuff ready for a3 though.

IanN

• Been working on combined context menus for mailnews bug 469498.

• Been investigating how mailnews UI deals with adding/removing RSS feeds.
• On holiday for a week.
• Will be reviewing the tabmail patch next.

KaiRo

• Worked on fixing some test failures and test leaks

• Local work for dusting off and unbitrotting the SeaMonkey-specific patches for pwdmgr switching
• Removed “what’s related” sidebar (Alexa sidebar available as add-on)
• Some preliminary work for getting a tree-based dlmgr UI based on toolkit backend
• Summarized SeaMonkey vision thread
• As always, my blog has more detailed status about my work.

mcsmurf

• Working on bug 471346 (Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service) which is helpful for Feed Preview.

• Bug triaging. Discovered a somewhat major bug in Windows integration in SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.
• Finished another Shell service patch.

Misak

• bug 36810 (session restore) Waiting for review to be completed.

• bug 459550 (Port Bug 448976 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) to SeaMonkey).
• bug 425480 (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar).
• bug 455877 (port Bug 254714 to SeaMonkey).
• Porting tests for session store.

Mnyromyr

• bug 460960 (Port Thunderbird’s tabbed interface) First full scale patch waiting for review

• investigating bug 468351 (Illegal characters in mail headers suppress (rest of) header value in threadpane/headerpane)
• preparing mailnews-UI-move out of /mailnews
• random other bugfixes and reviews  ;-)

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

• Started work on bug 471372 Customizable Toolbars in Navigator (Part 2). WIP Patch is waiting for review.

• Filed bug 471508 (Make the toolboxChanged() callback return useful information) so that we can reset our custom attributes if the reset button was pressed.
• Triaging and closing Unresolved SeaMonkey Bugs and managed to get the total down to 490 (but the number is creeping up again :-P ).

sgautherie

• Fixed Core/… (but SM related) bugs:
  • bug 469606 |nsEudoraEditor.cpp(134) : error C2511: ‘nsresult nsEudoraEditor::PreDestroy(void)’ : overloaded member function not found in ‘nsEudoraEditor’|
• And working on other areas… like
  • infrastructure for running tests

  • filing bugs for leaks in (TUnit and Reftest) tests

Standard8

See Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-12-30#Standard8

stefanh

wladow

• polishing accesskeys throughout the UI - bug 322239, bug 322240, bug 322246…

Any other business?

• Now that feeds are in mailnews we probably need to get some reorganisation of components in bugzilla.
  • We should talk with the mailnews people on what they want on this.

  • We should also file a BMO reorganization bug to track SeaMonkey/Thunderbird requirements.
• Thunderbird is moving towards building mozilla-central nightlies as well as mozilla-1.9.1 nightlies. What are SM plans on this?
  • We don’t have the hardware for this at the moment.

  • bug 464325 is tracking our hardware requirements.
  • See also bug 470184 Track comm-central issues building with mozilla-central

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-12-30

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Dec 30, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> standard8

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

Action Items

New

Open

• dmose - Draw up straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox.

• dmose - Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.
• clarkbw - send mail about drivers about triaging 3.0b1 wanted this week
• dmose - triage [tb3needs] bugs

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

• For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

• clarkbw is release driver

• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST
• Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 75 (-1)

  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 27 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 9 (0)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 18 (+2)

  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 11 (0)

• clarkbw will send out email to drivers for wanted/blocker triaging.

Thunderbird 3

• Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap

QA Updates

• topcrashes
  • bug 471492 crash [@ nsImapMailFolder::CopyMessagesOffline]

  • bug 422907 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::GetTrashFolder (rootFolder is null)
  • bug 470804 NS_GetInnermostURI (CAPS?) (TB2) (no “owner”)
  • bug 470808 nsProxyEventObject::CallMethod (imap)
  • bug 470835 nsMsgLocalMailFolder::AddMessage (should be fixed in 12-23 nightly) (optimistically gone)
• We believe we have now have fixed the problems with crash reports on Mac. Update to builds post 20081224 and we’ll be able to get proper crash reports.
  • Standard8 will to let folks know to upgrade.

Roundtable

Status Updates

davida

dmose

• 2010 goals discussion

• MoMo board meeting stuff
• strategy discussions
• font discussions
• filter subsystem architecture discussion
• gloda-by-default discussion
• upcoming MoMo website change review
• branching/tinderbox discussion
• JS-in-mail work
• SF office space spec work

nth10sd

• Now back full steam post-Christmas & through the new year.

• Usual occasional bug triage.
• Working on first automated TB litmus test 5426.
• Got some TB patches into MozMill.
  • getMail3PaneController() should work perfectly.

  • getAddrbkController() should also work (almost) perfectly.
  • Now there’s only a non-working new/getMsgComposeController() left..
    • (Taken out since there’s a simple keypress workaround)

jcranmer

Standard8

• Reviews

• Password Manager
  • Almost complete patch now available on bug 433316

  • Need to sort out “password protect cache” - have some ideas, hope to solidify this week.
  • Also still need one sr in ldap before it can land bug 419595
• Mozmill in Leak & Bloat
  • Did some work to simplify running mozmill with TB and highlight the parts that are still preventing us from running the tests automatically, raised bug 471510 to cover the details
• Misc
  • bug 468108 Pointed the l10n dashboard to the right repository (mozilla-1.9.1) for l10n comparisons etc

Two week goals (End of week 2):

• Complete Password Manager migration
  • See above, almost complete
• Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill
  • Blocked by Mozmill issues bug 471510
• Lead Address Book discussions
  • Delayed due to Christmas
• Investigate fixing LDAP Issues with threads and shutdown.
  • Delayed due to Christmas
• Look at Performance tests
  • Delayed due to Christmas

Two week goals (Start of week 1):

• Complete Password Manager migration

• Complete moving Leak and Bloat to Mozmill (if Mozmill issues are resolved)
• Investigate if there is a simpler way to switch fully to toolkit autocomplete without doing too much work.
• Look at Performance tests
  • Get some rough ideas of what & how.

  • See if we can get a Ts structure in place (or something else)
    • This would be useful for jemalloc and assessing implementing a packages-static file for unix.

asuth

• Holiday last week, half-time this week.

bienvenu

• Reviews

• Fixed bug 470011 - playback of offline imap operations needs to check if dest folder exists
• Fixed exception thrown when loading .eml files, bug 470119
• make forward inline not include the references headers for mail messages, bug 464782
• make updating news counts not leave all the .msf files open bug 470219
• Fixed imap auto sync not to leave db’s open, bug 470221

Two week goals (end of week 2):

Two week goals (week 2)

• Finish folder archiving work. bug 451995
  • made imap folders default to archive folder on imap server; made “Archives” localizable.

  • several dependent bugs fixed or awaiting review
    • respect personal namespace when creating imap folder under root, bug 470269

    • make addsubfolder notify for new imap folders, make sure root folder has hierarchy delimiter cached, bug 470151

Two week goals (week 1)

• Try to knock off some beta 2 blockers between the holiday festivities

• Get initial archive patch reviewed, perhaps in smaller chunks.

emre

• Two week goals
  • Finalizing activity manager and activity manager integration of core components.
    • bug 257942 in review
  • Implementing a two level auto-sync model for TB-Idle cases.
    • bug 471208 filed, and work initiated

• Bugs
  • bug 470447 landed

gozer

• Build
  • Rewrote the unittest buildbot master to be branch-capable
    • Moving builders over to it as we speak
  • Mac OS X now using Dwarf (crash symbols issues seem resolved too)

• Web
  • SpreadThunderbird Google Analytics live.

  • Got a fully working bouncer installation, need to think about production setup

• Personnal
  • On vacation: Jan 9th - Jan 16th (on call)

clarkbw

• release driving
  • reviewing dates
• catching up with bugs
• small calendaring experiment
• blogging

wsmwk

• crash monitoring

• attacked SM mailnews: message display critical bugs
• litmus test cleanup continues

beckley

Penelope

KaiRo

rkent

rebron

• Web site in is production with silver orange.

Two Week Goal

• Continued web site work, coordinate web site localization.

• 2009 event planning.
• Continue work on Support/Help plan.

sipaq

mkmelin

Attendees

dmose, nth10sd, standard8, asuth, bienvenu, emre, gozer, clarkbw, wsmwk, rkent, rebron, jminta

WeeklyUpdates/2008-12-29

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Meeting Details

• 1:00pm Pacific time (21:00 UTC until March 8, 2009)

• Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
• +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
• +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
• +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
• sip:weeklystatus@mozilla.com from generic SIP clients
• http://air.mozilla.com/ to watch and listen
• join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

WeeklyUpdate Live: You can watch the weekly meetings live at Air Mozilla You can also view previous meetings from the “on-demand” button on the Air Mozilla player. Meetings will be posted for on-demand consumption shortly after the meeting conclusion.

Friends of the Tree

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Branch work: Firefox 3.0.6 / Major Update

• Firefox 2.0.0.20 to 3.0.5 Major Update
  • Going out to Beta today (12/29)

  • Final release in early/mid January
  • Localizations are working on translating the new major update banner
• Thunderbird 2.0.0.19
  • Being released tomorrow at 11am (ahead of schedule!)

  • Next Thunderbird 2 release will likely be in March
• Firefox 3.0.6
  • Code freeze is January 6 at 11:59pm

  • Final release is targeted at early February

Gecko 1.9.1

Firefox 3.1

Firefox 3.1 Beta 3

• Dec 31 - string freeze <– coming soon! take note!

• Jan 13 - code freeze
• Jan 19 - QA start
• Jan 26 - ship to users

• workin’ on Beta 3 (triage queries)
  • Firefox 3.1 Nominations

  • Firefox 3.1 Blockers
  • Fixed Firefox 3.1 Blockers that need 1.9.1 landing
  • Firefox 3.1 - easy polish bugs we’re looking to take
  • Firefox 3.1 - hard polish bugs we’re looking to take

TB 3

Mobile

IT

• No real updates this week.

• Last week was slow, took advantage of the slowness to run through kernel upgrades and other miscellaneous updates.

Release Engineering

• Releases discussed above.

QA

• Releases (mostly covered above)
  • Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 testing, attempt to release this week

  • Pre-release testing of 2.0.0.20 Major Update to 3.0.5
• 100,000 top site test ongoing
  • Found and reduced two crash bugs to reproducible testcases so far, more to follow
• Tested and Released Alpha 2 for Fennec!
• Keeping abreast of Firefox 3 testing in CSS Tranforms, Session Restore, and PPC support among others
• Code coverage statistics are almost ready, getting the last kinks worked out
• Mozmill 1.0 will be released this week
  • Bug fixing for Thunderbird support

  • UI improvements

Security

Mozilla is investigating the issue of improperly issued SSL certificates from a Comodo reseller. See extra long thread here: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/9c0cc829204487bf#

Marketing/PR

PR

• Mozilla and John Lilly featured in SF Chronicle

• Firefox named “CHIP Online Download Award: Download of the Year”
• Firefox wins Web Browser of the Year
• Fennec alpha 2 released. Coverage includes Beta News, CNet, Ars Technica

Engagement

• New wiki page posted with Dec08 update slides.

Community

• Campus Reps “On the Street” Interviews project completed… Check out the videos!

Support

No updates this week. Thanks to all SUMO contributors (and of course the SUMO team and all helpful peers) for a fantastic 2008! Here’s to an even more spectacular 2009. :)

Metrics

Evangelism

• No Updates.

Labs

Developer Tools

Add-ons

Webdev

• No updates.

L10n

Foundation Updates

• Frank investigated problems with SSL certificate issuance at Certstar, a reseller of Comodo; see the public discussion in m.d.t.crypto for full details.

• David updated www.mozilla.org with new or revised pages for Mozilla project history, project roles and leadership, and a Catalan version of the Mozilla Manifesto.
• David migrated to MDC the list of all known Mozilla-based applications.

Roundtable

Other Business

Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-12-23

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Dec 23, 17:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)

• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who’s taking minutes? –> standard8

• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

Action Items

New

Open

• dmose - Draw up straw man schedule for shipping one month after Firefox.

• dmose - Suggest to drivers about a new flag for potential post-TB3 blockers.

Closed

Thunderbird 3 Beta 2

• Drivers meeting last Thursday.

• Probably not much would be done in the next week or two — Christmas / New Year.
• Dates below may get pushed back.
• dmose notes about Gecko’s code freeze dates in Jan.
• For reference, Gecko 1.9.1b3: Jan 13 Code Freeze, Jan 15 QA, Jan 26 Release according to their plan.

• clarkbw is release driver

• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed: Slushy string freeze from: Monday 2nd February 23:59 PST
• Proposed: Firm string freeze and slushy Code freeze from: Thursday 5th February 23:59 PST

• Blockers/Wanted
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 76 (1 up from last week)

  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 27 (0)
• Proposed Blocking
  • Proposed Blockers (b2): Query TBD

  • Proposed Blockers (b? + milestone): 9 (-1)
• Fixed:
  • TB 3.0b2 - blocking: 16 (+5)

  • TB 3.0b2 - wanted: 11 (+3)

Thunderbird 3