Comments on: How Users Open New Empty Tabs http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/ Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:12:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mellaly http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-154958 mellaly Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:33:13 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-154958 Why is that a likely assumption? I would guess people who updated immediately are tech-savvy people who follow release announcements, whereas those who update later are those who get the update automatically, or Firefox does a regular check, or something like that. Why is that a likely assumption? I would guess people who updated immediately are tech-savvy people who follow release announcements, whereas those who update later are those who get the update automatically, or Firefox does a regular check, or something like that.

]]> By: Andrej http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-150064 Andrej Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:27:55 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-150064 Why not add an option of Middle Click on the empty space after the plus sign to open an empty tab, just like in Opera? It's a lot more effective than trying to find the CTRL+T key. Why not add an option of Middle Click on the empty space after the plus sign to open an empty tab, just like in Opera? It’s a lot more effective than trying to find the CTRL+T key.

]]> By: B.J. Herbison http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149885 B.J. Herbison Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:38:11 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149885 The variety of ways people open tabs (other than the three listed in the survey) is impressive. I use approaches I don't see listed above: I type in the Awesome Bar (and because of Tab Mix Plus the selected page is opened in a new tab) or click on a link (my cross-domain links are opened in new tabs by default). (And I also use other approaches. Of the three listed in the survey, I use a keyboard shortcut most often.) May I suggest you add an "other" option to future surveys? I'm not sure how you can "get statistically significant results within a week" if some unknown portion of the population can't possibly answer correctly. The variety of ways people open tabs (other than the three listed in the survey) is impressive.

I use approaches I don’t see listed above: I type in the Awesome Bar (and because of Tab Mix Plus the selected page is opened in a new tab) or click on a link (my cross-domain links are opened in new tabs by default).

(And I also use other approaches. Of the three listed in the survey, I use a keyboard shortcut most often.)

May I suggest you add an “other” option to future surveys? I’m not sure how you can “get statistically significant results within a week” if some unknown portion of the population can’t possibly answer correctly.

]]> By: Ken Saunders http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149701 Ken Saunders Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:50:25 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149701 @Jim Tools > Options > Tabs > uncheck Always show the tab bar Open new windows in a new tab instead Tab Killer add-on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1938 3.5 compatible version here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1938 Advanced tab stuff http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Toolkit. hit Ctrl+f (or Cmd) and enter browser. tabs Of course having multiple windows open is a heck of a lot more confusing than using tabs. Out of respect, I won't mention her age, but I'm 42 and my Mom has been using Firefox since 1.0 (IE before that) and she has no issues with tabs. Just because something is new or foreign to someone, it doesn't mean that they can't learn. After all, my mom went from radio > TV > 8 tracks > cassettes > CD's > computing (including the Internet) DVD's > 1 or 2 TV channels selected by turning a knob to 200+ and multiple remotes, from crawling > walking > driving goo goo ga ga > talking, etc, etc, etc. @Jim
Tools > Options > Tabs > uncheck
Always show the tab bar
Open new windows in a new tab instead

Tab Killer add-on
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1938
3.5 compatible version here
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/versions/1938

Advanced tab stuff
http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries#Toolkit.
hit Ctrl+f (or Cmd) and enter browser. tabs

Of course having multiple windows open is a heck of a lot more confusing than using tabs.

Out of respect, I won’t mention her age, but I’m 42 and my Mom has been using Firefox since 1.0 (IE before that) and she has no issues with tabs.
Just because something is new or foreign to someone, it doesn’t mean that they can’t learn. After all, my mom went from radio > TV > 8 tracks > cassettes > CD’s > computing (including the Internet) DVD’s > 1 or 2 TV channels selected by turning a knob to 200+ and multiple remotes, from crawling > walking > driving goo goo ga ga > talking, etc, etc, etc.

]]> By: Jim http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149678 Jim Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:41:37 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149678 You really need an "I don't use tabs" option. I've met lots of people (including my parents) who just get confused when I start talking about tabs. You really need an “I don’t use tabs” option. I’ve met lots of people (including my parents) who just get confused when I start talking about tabs.

]]> By: Blake Cutler http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149676 Blake Cutler Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:30:24 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149676 @Gerv - if we assume 'tech-savvy' users and less-savvy users interact with their browsers differently, then running the survey well after a dot release will bias our data. @Gerv – if we assume ‘tech-savvy’ users and less-savvy users interact with their browsers differently, then running the survey well after a dot release will bias our data.

]]> By: Benoit http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149675 Benoit Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:48:58 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149675 I never open an empty tab. What I do is opening a new tab with my home page by middle-clicking on the Home button. (It is more accessible to me because it is always at the same place on the screen, plus there is actually something to do on that page if I don't know the address I want to visit.) I never open an empty tab. What I do is opening a new tab with my home page by middle-clicking on the Home button.

(It is more accessible to me because it is always at the same place on the screen, plus there is actually something to do on that page if I don’t know the address I want to visit.)

]]> By: Gerv http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149665 Gerv Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:16:32 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149665 "This will be a factor if the population of users who update Firefox immediately and the population of users who update later are heterogeneous (a likely assumption)." Why is that a likely assumption? I would guess people who updated immediately are tech-savvy people who follow release announcements, whereas those who update later are those who get the update automatically, or Firefox does a regular check, or something like that. Gerv “This will be a factor if the population of users who update Firefox immediately and the population of users who update later are heterogeneous (a likely assumption).”

Why is that a likely assumption? I would guess people who updated immediately are tech-savvy people who follow release announcements, whereas those who update later are those who get the update automatically, or Firefox does a regular check, or something like that.

Gerv

]]> By: Ken Saunders http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149636 Ken Saunders Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:56:25 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149636 Ditto to Dan's comment. I either use the tab bar if it isn't full, and Ctrl+T if it is. There's an add a new tab button? JK. I got rid of it when it was first implemented. I didn't need it, plus I got tired of opening new tabs when I was just trying to close one. Can it be assumed that the first people to update/upgrade are more experienced and knowledgeable users so there's a higher chance that they use methods other than the options provided in the survey and that are not so obvious to standard(?) users? Ditto to Dan’s comment.

I either use the tab bar if it isn’t full, and Ctrl+T if it is.

There’s an add a new tab button? JK. I got rid of it when it was first implemented. I didn’t need it, plus I got tired of opening new tabs when I was just trying to close one.

Can it be assumed that the first people to update/upgrade are more experienced and knowledgeable users so there’s a higher chance that they use methods other than the options provided in the survey and that are not so obvious to standard(?) users?

]]> By: Orrin http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/2010/01/13/how-users-open-new-empty-tabs/comment-page-1/#comment-149632 Orrin Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:41:50 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/metrics/?p=2040#comment-149632 I used to always use a fixed New Tab button on my toolbar (I liked that better than the new way of doing it with the New Tab button on the tab bar to the right of the existing tabs because that location always changes) or Ctrl+T. Lately I've been using the double-click method described above because I usually have one hand on the mouse anyway. I used to always use a fixed New Tab button on my toolbar (I liked that better than the new way of doing it with the New Tab button on the tab bar to the right of the existing tabs because that location always changes) or Ctrl+T. Lately I’ve been using the double-click method described above because I usually have one hand on the mouse anyway.

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