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	<title>Comments on: Christmas Load Balancers</title>
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		<title>By: Laura Thomson</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2008/12/01/christmas-load-balancers/comment-page-1/#comment-76568</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for decoupling.  I&#039;d vote for hardware LB in front of a farm of commodity cache boxes that could grow as needed (and be tuned/replaced etc).  But what do I know ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for decoupling.  I&#8217;d vote for hardware LB in front of a farm of commodity cache boxes that could grow as needed (and be tuned/replaced etc).  But what do I know <img src='http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mrz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd: We looked at A10 awhile back.  Their caching support was very 1.0 (by default they didn&#039;t cache 302s which we rely on).  Worse was that since caching was just recently added, they didn&#039;t have weblogging.  Since some amount of requests would have been served directly out of the A10&#039;s cache, the backend webservers would never have seen the log hit.

I really really liked A10&#039;s virtual-n-mode cluster though.

I&#039;m leaning more towards a multi-layer approach now with some L4 load balancer in front of something like Zeus&#039; ZXTM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd: We looked at A10 awhile back.  Their caching support was very 1.0 (by default they didn&#8217;t cache 302s which we rely on).  Worse was that since caching was just recently added, they didn&#8217;t have weblogging.  Since some amount of requests would have been served directly out of the A10&#8242;s cache, the backend webservers would never have seen the log hit.</p>
<p>I really really liked A10&#8242;s virtual-n-mode cluster though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning more towards a multi-layer approach now with some L4 load balancer in front of something like Zeus&#8217; ZXTM.</p>
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		<title>By: mrz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yusuf: I am actually.  Yesterday I moved https://versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org/ over to a three node ZXTM cluster.

In general I like Zeus but I don&#039;t like the no-CLI interface.  I also wish their clustering method allowed me to advertise just one DNS record instead of multiple.  That eats IP addresses fast.  

Consider a ten node ZXTM cluster and 10 websites, each of which requires its own IP address.  That&#039;s 100 IPs off the bat.
I&#039;m considering putting the ZXTM cluster behind some L4 load balancer like Cisco&#039;s ACE or a Foundry ServerIron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yusuf: I am actually.  Yesterday I moved <a href="https://versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org/" rel="nofollow">https://versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org/</a> over to a three node ZXTM cluster.</p>
<p>In general I like Zeus but I don&#8217;t like the no-CLI interface.  I also wish their clustering method allowed me to advertise just one DNS record instead of multiple.  That eats IP addresses fast.  </p>
<p>Consider a ten node ZXTM cluster and 10 websites, each of which requires its own IP address.  That&#8217;s 100 IPs off the bat.<br />
I&#8217;m considering putting the ZXTM cluster behind some L4 load balancer like Cisco&#8217;s ACE or a Foundry ServerIron.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Walker</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2008/12/01/christmas-load-balancers/comment-page-1/#comment-76519</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about www.a10networks.com ?  The A10 AX3100 is rated at 24,000 SSL connections per second.  IPv6 included for free. RAM is utilized for caching - I think up to 50% of physical RAM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about <a href="http://www.a10networks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.a10networks.com</a> ?  The A10 AX3100 is rated at 24,000 SSL connections per second.  IPv6 included for free. RAM is utilized for caching &#8211; I think up to 50% of physical RAM.</p>
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		<title>By: rwg</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2008/12/01/christmas-load-balancers/comment-page-1/#comment-76508</link>
		<dc:creator>rwg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget &quot;working IPv6 support that doesn&#039;t cost thousands of dollars extra.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget &#8220;working IPv6 support that doesn&#8217;t cost thousands of dollars extra.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yusuf</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2008/12/01/christmas-load-balancers/comment-page-1/#comment-76507</link>
		<dc:creator>Yusuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you looked at Zeus

http://www.zeus.com/

It&#039;s software based so you can take advantage of Moore&#039;s Law with faster hardware. Would be a good idea to see how this could be paired with the Sun T5440 which have onboard SSL ofloaders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at Zeus</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zeus.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeus.com/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s software based so you can take advantage of Moore&#8217;s Law with faster hardware. Would be a good idea to see how this could be paired with the Sun T5440 which have onboard SSL ofloaders</p>
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