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	<title>Comments on: The power of Mozilla = .2mW/user</title>
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	<description>noise from a mozilla IT/Operations wrangler</description>
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		<title>By: open4energy</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-108715</link>
		<dc:creator>open4energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mrz

I believe you have opened the door to a key issue for all open source projects.

How do they differentiate from commercial software when it comes to energy management.

If, as we believe, the open nature of open source results in cleaner code, produced under the critical eye of our peers, how will this translate into energy savings.

But it goes further, how will open source companies operate their own IT systems to save energy.

And, what software will be provided by the open source community to support energy savings.

My appreciation to Cacti and RRDTool who made this data collection possible.

See http://cacti.net  and http://open4energy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrz</p>
<p>I believe you have opened the door to a key issue for all open source projects.</p>
<p>How do they differentiate from commercial software when it comes to energy management.</p>
<p>If, as we believe, the open nature of open source results in cleaner code, produced under the critical eye of our peers, how will this translate into energy savings.</p>
<p>But it goes further, how will open source companies operate their own IT systems to save energy.</p>
<p>And, what software will be provided by the open source community to support energy savings.</p>
<p>My appreciation to Cacti and RRDTool who made this data collection possible.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://cacti.net" rel="nofollow">http://cacti.net</a>  and <a href="http://open4energy.com" rel="nofollow">http://open4energy.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian King</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91484</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next up: Float the Mozilla data center out in the Pacific. Even better, the Atlantic is windier and likely has stronger currents. Get your goggles on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next up: Float the Mozilla data center out in the Pacific. Even better, the Atlantic is windier and likely has stronger currents. Get your goggles on!</p>
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		<title>By: John Slater</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91482</link>
		<dc:creator>John Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yowza!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yowza!</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91480</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent work, mrz! &quot;make the invisible visible&quot;, then we&#039;ll work on reducing it.

Limiting energy consumption is urgent, and I&#039;m totally thrilled to see Mozilla move in the right direction. Keep up the good work! 

--Tristan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work, mrz! &#8220;make the invisible visible&#8221;, then we&#8217;ll work on reducing it.</p>
<p>Limiting energy consumption is urgent, and I&#8217;m totally thrilled to see Mozilla move in the right direction. Keep up the good work! </p>
<p>&#8211;Tristan</p>
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		<title>By: Wil Clouser</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91255</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil Clouser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graphs, numbers, and interesting data.  Nice work. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graphs, numbers, and interesting data.  Nice work. <img src='http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mrz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91234</link>
		<dc:creator>mrz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Axel: Re: buying more efficient hardware, we&#039;ve made a conscious decision to standardize on low-voltage CPUs.  Last year we started moving away from single 1u rack mount servers towards blades (and LV Xeons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Axel: Re: buying more efficient hardware, we&#8217;ve made a conscious decision to standardize on low-voltage CPUs.  Last year we started moving away from single 1u rack mount servers towards blades (and LV Xeons).</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Hecht</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91186</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Hecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting data for sure. As a european, 20kg are the best metric unit, opposed to howmany whichever pounds or centi-tons.

As you noted that cooling is excluded, we should get a ballpark number for that at least. I learned that heat contributes significantly to the power consumption of the system at large. And can make actions like bying more efficient hardware a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting data for sure. As a european, 20kg are the best metric unit, opposed to howmany whichever pounds or centi-tons.</p>
<p>As you noted that cooling is excluded, we should get a ballpark number for that at least. I learned that heat contributes significantly to the power consumption of the system at large. And can make actions like bying more efficient hardware a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Archaeopteryx</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91171</link>
		<dc:creator>Archaeopteryx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could
1. cook 44827 cups of coffee or tea per day with that (continental European style, sea level, 0,25 l cup, 8°C cold water) - more than a cup each 2 seconds.
2. let 24131 people call other 24131 people with theirs iPhone 3Gs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could<br />
1. cook 44827 cups of coffee or tea per day with that (continental European style, sea level, 0,25 l cup, 8°C cold water) &#8211; more than a cup each 2 seconds.<br />
2. let 24131 people call other 24131 people with theirs iPhone 3Gs</p>
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		<title>By: morgamic</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/mrz/2009/02/25/the-power-of-mozilla-2mwuser/comment-page-1/#comment-91140</link>
		<dc:creator>morgamic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Matthew.  I think we should try to run more metrics like this so we can explain to other companies how much CO2 emissions you can save by optimizing the front-end of websites.  Perceived speed, quicker-loading pages and saved bandwidth don&#039;t speak as loudly as CO2 saved and/or direct dollars and cents saved.

So, say we cut the # of HTTP requests by 50% -- what amount of savings would that incur at Mozilla?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Matthew.  I think we should try to run more metrics like this so we can explain to other companies how much CO2 emissions you can save by optimizing the front-end of websites.  Perceived speed, quicker-loading pages and saved bandwidth don&#8217;t speak as loudly as CO2 saved and/or direct dollars and cents saved.</p>
<p>So, say we cut the # of HTTP requests by 50% &#8212; what amount of savings would that incur at Mozilla?</p>
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