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	<title>Comments on: Mozilla is Linux</title>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8464</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s come to this, I&#039;ve been using &quot;Firefox&quot; since phoenix 0.1 and there wasn&#039;t any doubt in my mind that Mozilla would do the right thing.

Mozilla have (for many years) delivered a leading cross platform rendering engine and they&#039;ve done so with a fraction of the resources of their competitors. I don&#039;t think that the current level of openness on the web would have been realized but for Mozilla, nor that people doing important work should be taking time out, writing blog posts to appease &quot;the community&quot;. There was no doubt in my mind that this storm in a tea-cup would be handled appropiately.

So come on guys, some of us had full confidence this&#039;d be worked out and appreciate everything you&#039;ve achieved so far... but the web&#039;s a moving target and there&#039;s a load of work to be done for 3.1. So back on your heads, the world wide web is hanging on the results ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s come to this, I&#8217;ve been using &#8220;Firefox&#8221; since phoenix 0.1 and there wasn&#8217;t any doubt in my mind that Mozilla would do the right thing.</p>
<p>Mozilla have (for many years) delivered a leading cross platform rendering engine and they&#8217;ve done so with a fraction of the resources of their competitors. I don&#8217;t think that the current level of openness on the web would have been realized but for Mozilla, nor that people doing important work should be taking time out, writing blog posts to appease &#8220;the community&#8221;. There was no doubt in my mind that this storm in a tea-cup would be handled appropiately.</p>
<p>So come on guys, some of us had full confidence this&#8217;d be worked out and appreciate everything you&#8217;ve achieved so far&#8230; but the web&#8217;s a moving target and there&#8217;s a load of work to be done for 3.1. So back on your heads, the world wide web is hanging on the results <img src='http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Napolitano</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8463</link>
		<dc:creator>James Napolitano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The list of Mozilla&#039;s open-source contributions is great; it would be nice to put a formal version of it on the mozilla.org website to help allay some of the ill feelings toward Mozilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The list of Mozilla&#8217;s open-source contributions is great; it would be nice to put a formal version of it on the mozilla.org website to help allay some of the ill feelings toward Mozilla.</p>
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		<title>By: An update on the Firefox EULA issue &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8461</link>
		<dc:creator>An update on the Firefox EULA issue &#171; I&#8217;m Just an Avatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mozilla is Linux: Mozilla is Linux [...]</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8457</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The us vs them mentality comes from having private discussions with distributions without involving either the mozilla or distribution&#039;s communities. Mark Shuttleworth used the example of talking to a hardware vendor about opening their drivers as a reason for confidentiality, but that&#039;s an open company talking to a closed company, not two open companies talking to each other and involving their communities in the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The us vs them mentality comes from having private discussions with distributions without involving either the mozilla or distribution&#8217;s communities. Mark Shuttleworth used the example of talking to a hardware vendor about opening their drivers as a reason for confidentiality, but that&#8217;s an open company talking to a closed company, not two open companies talking to each other and involving their communities in the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: rsayre</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8456</link>
		<dc:creator>rsayre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it wasn&#039;t at all like that. The dialog that got turned on in Ubuntu is the exact same thing we have been shipping on Mac and Windows, and we were working to replace it. Its activation was untimely in that users got the old one. The good news about this little uproar is that the new content and presentation will be better going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it wasn&#8217;t at all like that. The dialog that got turned on in Ubuntu is the exact same thing we have been shipping on Mac and Windows, and we were working to replace it. Its activation was untimely in that users got the old one. The good news about this little uproar is that the new content and presentation will be better going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: SilverWave</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2008/09/17/mozilla-is-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8455</link>
		<dc:creator>SilverWave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love ff and promote it every opportunity.
My default setting is Mozilla=Good.

But obviously someone on the team was pushing for this EULA, and was pressuring the various distros for months about it!

The really disturbing thing is no one took him to one side and had a quiet word, pointing out that this was not something Mozilla should be doing...

Thinking about this... what about the team behind this? There must have been meetings and memos etc...

... if it was as you say &quot;Mozilla is Linux&quot;, how come no one put their hand up and said &quot;Eh guys this really sucks&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love ff and promote it every opportunity.<br />
My default setting is Mozilla=Good.</p>
<p>But obviously someone on the team was pushing for this EULA, and was pressuring the various distros for months about it!</p>
<p>The really disturbing thing is no one took him to one side and had a quiet word, pointing out that this was not something Mozilla should be doing&#8230;</p>
<p>Thinking about this&#8230; what about the team behind this? There must have been meetings and memos etc&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; if it was as you say &#8220;Mozilla is Linux&#8221;, how come no one put their hand up and said &#8220;Eh guys this really sucks&#8221;?</p>
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