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	<title>Comments on: Updating Localization Notes</title>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Bailey</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143868</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwayne Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moz2po will also match a note to the entity or key that follows it.  In my experience the notes are mostly badly formatted or out of date to do proper matching.

So yip we&#039;ll choke on the example @Axel gave.  But a translator looking at &#039;tender&#039; is most likely going to miss that note and any notes that apply to the whole file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moz2po will also match a note to the entity or key that follows it.  In my experience the notes are mostly badly formatted or out of date to do proper matching.</p>
<p>So yip we&#8217;ll choke on the example @Axel gave.  But a translator looking at &#8216;tender&#8217; is most likely going to miss that note and any notes that apply to the whole file.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Hecht</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143867</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Hecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That does pose a problem for notes like

# Localization Note (foo, bar, tender): This is just a test
foo: one string
bar: another
tender: wow, yet another string.

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That does pose a problem for notes like</p>
<p># Localization Note (foo, bar, tender): This is just a test<br />
foo: one string<br />
bar: another<br />
tender: wow, yet another string.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandru Szasz</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143853</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandru Szasz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Narro I assume that a localization note regardless of the way it is formatted and what it contains refers to the next entity. Which is how programmers usually work when commenting code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Narro I assume that a localization note regardless of the way it is formatted and what it contains refers to the next entity. Which is how programmers usually work when commenting code.</p>
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		<title>By: Julen</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143825</link>
		<dc:creator>Julen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, isn&#039;t already documented &lt;a href=&quot;https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_notes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;how to write localization notes&lt;/a&gt;?

The other thing is what developers are actually doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, isn&#8217;t already documented <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_notes" rel="nofollow">how to write localization notes</a>?</p>
<p>The other thing is what developers are actually doing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Rashbrook</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143817</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Rashbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worse still, that comment is out of date, because it&#039;s now Ctrl+Shift+U that&#039;s reserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse still, that comment is out of date, because it&#8217;s now Ctrl+Shift+U that&#8217;s reserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Axel Hecht</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143758</link>
		<dc:creator>Axel Hecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, localization notes are documented at https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_notes.

The question of what works and what doesn&#039;t work is a sad story, actually. For example, pootle doesn&#039;t support file-wide localization notes, even though Dwayne totally thinks that they&#039;re the right tool to offer localization primers, or are a great tool to say &quot;feel free to leave XSLT error message in English if there&#039;s no eco-system around that standard in your language.&quot;

So it&#039;s not so much a question of just what works, but what should work as well.

The story about sequences of entities with localization notes is a bit tougher, and not really documented. I think the comma-separated list works for now.

We&#039;re keeping the question of comments on l10n files on the top of our heads when talking about l20n, fwiw, so if/when we switch, things should improve in this regard as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, localization notes are documented at <a href="https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_notes" rel="nofollow">https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Localization_notes</a>.</p>
<p>The question of what works and what doesn&#8217;t work is a sad story, actually. For example, pootle doesn&#8217;t support file-wide localization notes, even though Dwayne totally thinks that they&#8217;re the right tool to offer localization primers, or are a great tool to say &#8220;feel free to leave XSLT error message in English if there&#8217;s no eco-system around that standard in your language.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not so much a question of just what works, but what should work as well.</p>
<p>The story about sequences of entities with localization notes is a bit tougher, and not really documented. I think the comma-separated list works for now.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re keeping the question of comments on l10n files on the top of our heads when talking about l20n, fwiw, so if/when we switch, things should improve in this regard as well.</p>
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		<title>By: seth bindernagel</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143750</link>
		<dc:creator>seth bindernagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Phil, Good idea.  Ah...bless the quarterly goal system.  Perhaps I&#039;ll set that as one in the coming quarters:  Documenting a policy on how to write localization notes.  Appreciate the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Phil, Good idea.  Ah&#8230;bless the quarterly goal system.  Perhaps I&#8217;ll set that as one in the coming quarters:  Documenting a policy on how to write localization notes.  Appreciate the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Ringnalda</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/seth/2009/09/22/updating-localization-notes/comment-page-1/#comment-143744</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Ringnalda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be unimaginably wonderful if someone would actually document what does and doesn&#039;t work with l10n notes: the tree is chock-full of examples (by which I don&#039;t mean &quot;examples which all do the same thing the same way&quot; but &quot;dozens of different incompatible ways&quot;) of notes for entire files, and notes for multiple keys, and various sorts of wrapping and whitespace and punctuation for single-key notes, going back to the dawn of l10n time, with absolutely no guidance that I&#039;ve ever seen on what actually does and doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be unimaginably wonderful if someone would actually document what does and doesn&#8217;t work with l10n notes: the tree is chock-full of examples (by which I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;examples which all do the same thing the same way&#8221; but &#8220;dozens of different incompatible ways&#8221;) of notes for entire files, and notes for multiple keys, and various sorts of wrapping and whitespace and punctuation for single-key notes, going back to the dawn of l10n time, with absolutely no guidance that I&#8217;ve ever seen on what actually does and doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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