Comments on: There is nothing exciting about filesystems http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/ Just another Blog.mozilla.com weblog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: david dahl http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/comment-page-1/#comment-23251 david dahl Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:26:36 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/?p=171#comment-23251 I sure hope sam sidler reads this post, then he will know how awesome linux is.:) I sure hope sam sidler reads this post, then he will know how awesome linux is.:)

]]> By: jmdesp http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/comment-page-1/#comment-23232 jmdesp Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:03:49 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/?p=171#comment-23232 > My basic idea is that we can utilize jar files as > “controlled filesystem environments” to deal with > having to run on crappy OSes with exceptionally bad > filesystems When I started understanding you were doing that though your newsgroup posts, I was a bit shocked. It really sounded like inappropriate optimization "hey, why is this guy trying to reimplement the file system !" I could just not imagine the wince fs was that bad. But is "jar" a good filesystem ? Maybe for read only files, but if you really swallow the pill, you'll need writing in your filesystem. What about just including btrfs fully ? ;-> > My basic idea is that we can utilize jar files as
> “controlled filesystem environments” to deal with
> having to run on crappy OSes with exceptionally bad
> filesystems

When I started understanding you were doing that though your newsgroup posts, I was a bit shocked. It really sounded like inappropriate optimization “hey, why is this guy trying to reimplement the file system !”
I could just not imagine the wince fs was that bad.

But is “jar” a good filesystem ? Maybe for read only files, but if you really swallow the pill, you’ll need writing in your filesystem. What about just including btrfs fully ? ;->

]]> By: Justin Dolske http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/comment-page-1/#comment-23231 Justin Dolske Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:03:05 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/?p=171#comment-23231 As a old Solaris hand, I too was greatly excited when the first hints of ZFS in 10.5 (and later 10.6) came out, and subsequently greatly disappointed when it seemed that it had been dropped. As a old Solaris hand, I too was greatly excited when the first hints of ZFS in 10.5 (and later 10.6) came out, and subsequently greatly disappointed when it seemed that it had been dropped.

]]> By: Alexander Limi http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/comment-page-1/#comment-23229 Alexander Limi Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:48:43 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/?p=171#comment-23229 Nothing made me more sad than when any mention of ZFS started disappearing from the Snow Leopard (10.6) developer builds. HFS+ is such a bad file system, and they were in the process of at least giving us the option to have ZFS if we knew what we were doing — now it's nowhere to be found. Filesystems are awesome, I need to have a serious talk with Beltzner once I get back from vacation. ;) Nothing made me more sad than when any mention of ZFS started disappearing from the Snow Leopard (10.6) developer builds. HFS+ is such a bad file system, and they were in the process of at least giving us the option to have ZFS if we knew what we were doing — now it’s nowhere to be found.

Filesystems are awesome, I need to have a serious talk with Beltzner once I get back from vacation. ;)

]]> By: Mike Beltzner http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2009/08/14/there-is-nothing-exciting-about-filesystems/comment-page-1/#comment-23228 Mike Beltzner Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:30:33 +0000 http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/?p=171#comment-23228 I take some of it back; filesystems can be exciting, especially when trying to optimize around them. I'm incredibly thankful that we have super-smart people like yourself who can figure out how to sidestep the performance problems of a platform in order to deliver better experiences for our users. Way to go, Taras! (ps: I actually did know a lot about filesystems at some point, and was astonished to discover how complex inodes and the like were ... then I promptly forgot everything) I take some of it back; filesystems can be exciting, especially when trying to optimize around them. I’m incredibly thankful that we have super-smart people like yourself who can figure out how to sidestep the performance problems of a platform in order to deliver better experiences for our users.

Way to go, Taras!

(ps: I actually did know a lot about filesystems at some point, and was astonished to discover how complex inodes and the like were … then I promptly forgot everything)

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