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	<title>Comments on: Places Performance</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/thunder/2006/10/17/places-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Håkan,

I agree with you in general.  That&#039;s why our first task (for the places team) is to get the Firefox 2 UI to work on top of the places backend.  Which doesn&#039;t mean that we&#039;ll be stuck there, we&#039;d just prefer to use that as a starting point.

Vi,

Perhaps, but we&#039;d need to know what the gains are for that, since it would require keeping around a bunch of extra code for dealing with both backend formats, and for converting between the two.  There would also be a small performance hit at some point when the conversion kicks in.

This is why we need the performance data, so we can evaluate how much faster/slower each option is.  My gut feeling right now (based on the tests I ran last week) is that we&#039;ll be OK without resorting to using two formats based on history size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Håkan,</p>
<p>I agree with you in general.  That&#8217;s why our first task (for the places team) is to get the Firefox 2 UI to work on top of the places backend.  Which doesn&#8217;t mean that we&#8217;ll be stuck there, we&#8217;d just prefer to use that as a starting point.</p>
<p>Vi,</p>
<p>Perhaps, but we&#8217;d need to know what the gains are for that, since it would require keeping around a bunch of extra code for dealing with both backend formats, and for converting between the two.  There would also be a small performance hit at some point when the conversion kicks in.</p>
<p>This is why we need the performance data, so we can evaluate how much faster/slower each option is.  My gut feeling right now (based on the tests I ran last week) is that we&#8217;ll be OK without resorting to using two formats based on history size.</p>
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		<title>By: Vi</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/thunder/2006/10/17/places-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Vi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not to use flat files up to a certain number (2 x statistical number where performance is the same, for example) of history and bookmark  entires and switch to database after that. Some users often delete their history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not to use flat files up to a certain number (2 x statistical number where performance is the same, for example) of history and bookmark  entires and switch to database after that. Some users often delete their history.</p>
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		<title>By: Håkan</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/thunder/2006/10/17/places-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Håkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I am concerned, Places&#039; biggest problem has been its UI and usability. I don&#039;t know how users perceive it on other platforms, but on Mac it feels totally out of place and un-standard.

(You click a button, a weird floating window appears, effectively de-focusing the main browser window. It has a button with &quot;&gt;&gt;&quot; as title. I&#039;ve never ever seen such a creature in another mac app, though I vaguely can see what it&#039;s trying to resemble, and that is not when you&#039;ve actually brought up the actual main search window in Places).

I&#039;m sure the backend architecture makes good sense, but the actual interface will need some rethinking to be successful, in my opinion.

/Håkan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I am concerned, Places&#8217; biggest problem has been its UI and usability. I don&#8217;t know how users perceive it on other platforms, but on Mac it feels totally out of place and un-standard.</p>
<p>(You click a button, a weird floating window appears, effectively de-focusing the main browser window. It has a button with &#8220;&gt;&gt;&#8221; as title. I&#8217;ve never ever seen such a creature in another mac app, though I vaguely can see what it&#8217;s trying to resemble, and that is not when you&#8217;ve actually brought up the actual main search window in Places).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the backend architecture makes good sense, but the actual interface will need some rethinking to be successful, in my opinion.</p>
<p>/Håkan</p>
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