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	<title>Comments on: Crash Analysis: now in Open Source flavor</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: digi-tv</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-104525</link>
		<dc:creator>digi-tv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won’t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires windows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won’t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires windows</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Burns</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70734</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@morgamic

yes flash seems to be behind quite a few of the crashes I get, seems quite a spike in frequency from b4 to b5.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@morgamic</p>
<p>yes flash seems to be behind quite a few of the crashes I get, seems quite a spike in frequency from b4 to b5.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: morgamic</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70698</link>
		<dc:creator>morgamic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave - good points, I am not very familiar with the Talkback system, but I think it's great that in both cases we've made an effort to make that information public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave - good points, I am not very familiar with the Talkback system, but I think it&#8217;s great that in both cases we&#8217;ve made an effort to make that information public.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Miller</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70690</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having our crash stats available to the public in itself isn't something new; we've had crash reports available to the public for several years via http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/ and you can still see current crashes from Firefox and Thunderbird 2.x there.

The difference is that Talkback is proprietary software that we haven't been able to hand out the source for, or make any really useful changes to, so it's been mostly the same stale code for several years, and could only be included in official builds.  Breakpad is open and free, and anyone can make a build that includes it.

Socorro (the server-side component) is also open and free, and runs on modern hardware/software (thus making IT very happy).  The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won't run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires Windows (eek).  IT will be *very* *very* happy when all of the Talkback-enabled products are finally end-of-lifed so that we can get rid of those ancient servers. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having our crash stats available to the public in itself isn&#8217;t something new; we&#8217;ve had crash reports available to the public for several years via <a href="http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/" rel="nofollow">http://talkback-public.mozilla.org/</a> and you can still see current crashes from Firefox and Thunderbird 2.x there.</p>
<p>The difference is that Talkback is proprietary software that we haven&#8217;t been able to hand out the source for, or make any really useful changes to, so it&#8217;s been mostly the same stale code for several years, and could only be included in official builds.  Breakpad is open and free, and anyone can make a build that includes it.</p>
<p>Socorro (the server-side component) is also open and free, and runs on modern hardware/software (thus making IT very happy).  The Talkback collector server runs on Solaris 8 (and very likely won&#8217;t run on newer versions of Solaris), and the digester that processes the reports requires Windows (eek).  IT will be *very* *very* happy when all of the Talkback-enabled products are finally end-of-lifed so that we can get rid of those ancient servers. <img src='http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: AndersH</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70639</link>
		<dc:creator>AndersH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've installed flashblock just to get to see the crash reporter (instead of the application error dialog). But since I have the debugging tools installed, are there a form where I could upload a minidump (or whatever is needed) into Socorro?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve installed flashblock just to get to see the crash reporter (instead of the application error dialog). But since I have the debugging tools installed, are there a form where I could upload a minidump (or whatever is needed) into Socorro?</p>
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		<title>By: morgamic</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70612</link>
		<dc:creator>morgamic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - this is related to a bug about how Flash handles crashes when it's active;
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308

Were some of your crashes happening when Flash was active?  We have seen a similar skew and it sucks, but is known and being worked on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy - this is related to a bug about how Flash handles crashes when it&#8217;s active;<br />
<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422308</a></p>
<p>Were some of your crashes happening when Flash was active?  We have seen a similar skew and it sucks, but is known and being worked on.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Burns</title>
		<link>http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2008/04/21/crash-analysis-now-in-open-source-flavor/#comment-70607</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crash reported only seems to fire on about 60% of my crashes with 3.0b5 on windows, if that's typical it will skew your numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crash reported only seems to fire on about 60% of my crashes with 3.0b5 on windows, if that&#8217;s typical it will skew your numbers.</p>
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